Nigel Benn vs. Thomas Hearns

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  • Roger Mellie
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    #21
    Originally posted by #1Assassin
    doesnt make sense..

    hearns was dominating barkley until he got caught, he just got careless. in the second fight hearns was well past it, and it was at 175. which barkley carried well, but hearns did not.

    benn woulve been KOd in 1 against gerald if the ref hadnt saved him. u know like another ref let benn land a KO punch on barkey while he was down.

    and we are not using the same logic eighter. saying hearns (a superior boxer) could outbox benn cuz eubank did it makes sense. they both box the same way does eubank and hearns, use their legs and their jabs. only hearns does it better, he is taller, smarter, faster and has better skills.

    saying benn beat barkley who beat hearns so benn would beat hearns is simply a triangle theory, which isnt what i did. triangle theories never work since styles make fights.



    ive probably seen the mclellan fight 10-15 times. see the guy in my avatar?

    mclellan was brain damaged going into the benn fight, as soon as he got hit he was gonna come apart. he was damaged in the first jackson fight, all the fights between then and when he fought benn ended in round one. so would the benn fight if it wasnt for the ref btw. anyways, non brain damaged mclellan destroys benn. hell even a brain damaged mclellan wouldve done it if it wasnt for the ref.

    its interesting you brought up mclellan though. according to the g-man hearns was the best fighter ever.
    What a ****ty thing to say.

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    • prinzmanspoper
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      #22
      Originally posted by #1Assassin
      how the hell can anyone pick benn? thats just pure ignorance.

      hearns is a million times superior, benn struggled with eubanks boxing skills what the hell is he gonna do with hearns? the man who outboxed leonard, benitez and virgil hill. not to mention he can crack to say the least. no way ben can handle the speed, skills and power..

      hearns KO2

      No it isn't.What's ignorant is you failing to list Thomas Hearns own flaws.I already pointed out the many times that he was hurt and unable to recover.boxing ability doesn't have anything to do with it.Do you think that Kinchen,Roldan and barkley are far more aggressive,far greater punchers than Nigel benn? Well if you do,then you are sadly mistaken.

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      • Vivid Intent
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        #23
        Originally posted by #1Assassin
        doesnt make sense..
        It wasn't supposed to.

        hearns was dominating barkley until he got caught, he just got careless. in the second fight hearns was well past it, and it was at 175. which barkley carried well, but hearns did not.
        Excuses.. it's not like it's the only time we've seen Hearns get careless

        benn woulve been KOd in 1 against gerald if the ref hadnt saved him. u know like another ref let benn land a KO punch on barkey while he was down.
        Bull****...the ref pissed me off but it didn't save Benn from getting sparked. And there was no KO punch landed on Barkley, the 3 KD rule triggered the stoppage.

        and we are not using the same logic eighter. saying hearns (a superior boxer) could outbox benn cuz eubank did it makes sense. they both box the same way does eubank and hearns, use their legs and their jabs. only hearns does it better, he is taller, smarter, faster and has better skills.

        saying benn beat barkley who beat hearns so benn would beat hearns is simply a triangle theory, which isnt what i did. triangle theories never work since styles make fights.
        Yeah, styles make fights and saying Hearns outboxed Hill, Benetez and SRL so he'll beat Benn is ******. You said the comparison was because Eubank was outboxing Benn but if you re-watch those fights they're both very close, competitive fights and most felt Benn won the rematch. Nobody is saying Benn would outbox Hearns, he would have to make the fight a war and knock him out, which is highly possible.

        mclellan was brain damaged going into the benn fight, as soon as he got hit he was gonna come apart. he was damaged in the first jackson fight, all the fights between then and when he fought benn ended in round one.
        I've heard he was having problems after that fight but I'd need to hear more on it to make my mind up whether it was a defining factor in the Benn fight. I've read he was complaining of having headaches in sparring afterwards, any other info on it?

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        • #1Assassin
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          #24
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
          Makes sense now, you are a Benn hater because of the G-Man fight

          You are a disgrace to Gerald.
          im not a benn hater. i think he was a great fighter, in his time.. thats what makes the diffrence. hearns was an all time great. theres a big diffrence from very, very good and great in the face of history.

          benn showed lots of heart and skill in the mcclellan fight, i just dont think he couldve done it if gerald was 100%. and even if he could.. hearns' wins over duran and cuevas clearly tops benns win over mcclellan. if u put there whole careers up there hearns is just above benn.

          watching hearns dispose of cuevas and duran i dont see how benn would be diffrent. he was one hell of a fighter but i dont see what he brings to the table to make him a favourite over an atg like hearns.

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          • Max Cady
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            #25
            Hearns kos him easy as abc

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            • Mugwump
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              #26
              Pre the first Eubank fight I think Hearns has as reasonably easy fight. Of course, Benn retains the power to leave Hearns horizontal (especially when hurt), but a fit and focussed Hearns should be able to keep the fight at distance and bring home an easy win.

              Post Eubank and things are A LOT closer. Benn might even be favourite.

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              • #1Assassin
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                #27
                Originally posted by Roger Mellie
                What a ****ty thing to say.
                what? its the truth. mcellan was hurt in the first jackson fight, he comlained about weird headaches after the fight supposably like anything he ever experienced in boxing. his sister said he had a huge lump on his head after the fight that made her worried sick but he never got it checked out. and when training for the benn fight mclellan was hit by a jab from a welterweight and got some sort of seizure blinking like crazy, similar to the way he was blinking in the benn fight. and this is a guy who used to spar daily with hearns, michael moorer (who was a big punchet at 175) and lots of HWs at the kronk gym known for their gym wars. ive seen short footage of sparring in their in those days and they threw bombs.

                Originally posted by prinzmanspoper
                No it isn't.What's ignorant is you failing to list Thomas Hearns own flaws.I already pointed out the many times that he was hurt and unable to recover.boxing ability doesn't have anything to do with it.Do you think that Kinchen,Roldan and barkley are far more aggressive,far greater punchers than Nigel benn? Well if you do,then you are sadly mistaken.
                i never said benn doesnt have a punchers chance. but hearns has just as big a punchers chance, and he is better at delivering than benn. faster, more accurate, more versetaille offense. and hes a better boxer.. benn has a punchers chance but hearns is a clear favourite overall.

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                • PensionKiller
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin
                  im not a benn hater. i think he was a great fighter, in his time.. thats what makes the diffrence. hearns was an all time great. theres a big diffrence from very, very good and great in the face of history.

                  benn showed lots of heart and skill in the mcclellan fight, i just dont think he couldve done it if gerald was 100%. and even if he could.. hearns' wins over duran and cuevas clearly tops benns win over mcclellan. if u put there whole careers up there hearns is just above benn.

                  watching hearns dispose of cuevas and duran i dont see how benn would be diffrent. he was one hell of a fighter but i dont see what he brings to the table to make him a favourite over an atg like hearns.
                  benn just got out of prison for mcclelan and wasn't his best. also isnt it 20secs if some gets knocked out the ring? mcclelan did not finish him.

                  as for hearns, benn would tag him for a ko or hearns ud

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                  • Uturn
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                    #29
                    I feel Benn would turn this fight into a war which would lead to Hearns getting knocked out in the 8th round or so. I dont see Hearns holding up vs Benns onslaught for to long, he had mad power and is all wrong for Hearns imo.

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                    • Mugwump
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by #1Assassin
                      i never said benn doesnt have a punchers chance. but hearns has just as big a punchers chance, and he is better at delivering than benn. faster, more accurate, more versetaille offense. and hes a better boxer.. benn has a punchers chance but hearns is a clear favourite overall.
                      No one questions Hearns' superiority as a BOXER, but Benn was a better fighter than to only rate a puncher's chance and Hearns would not be fighting at his optimum weight.

                      Benn was a tough opponent for anyone. Against McClellan he gave one of the best exhibitions of head movement I've seen. At times Gerald, who was always an accurate puncher, struggled to lay a glove on him. Definitely not a two dimensional scrapper.

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