Pacquiao Leonard at 147

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  • jaestix1
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    #41
    Originally posted by Puntoyhauf
    the thing is... modern greats cannot be compared to the legends of the sport.

    Why?

    The conditioning of fighters today compared to the legends conditioning.

    The rounds, legends fought for 15 rounds compared to 12.

    There are a lot of things to consider.

    One thing's for sure, we will never know the results of those "Fantasy Fights"

    Legend's>>>>>modern day greats.

    same can be said to,

    Floyd Jr. vs Leonard...what will happen?

    so don't waste time trying to figure it out, coz legends always win.
    i think many modern day great could beat old legends. in a head to head battle i think pac could beat henry armstrong at 147 because of styles...i think floyd would beat arguello at 130 in a head to head battle. leonard atg 147 is a whole new ballgame though. leonard beats both floyd and pac at 147.

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    • FightFreak
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      #42
      Originally posted by markbnlv
      Its not that cut and dry i think Pac would have beat some great fighters from past eras like camacho for instance or vinny paz but the time period Leonard fought in was probably the best the ww division ever saw.
      Like I said, I don't see Pac as a welter ATG. I think that the highest weight at which he can beat a fellow ATG would be at LWW, against the hawk.
      Last edited by FightFreak; 12-07-2009, 10:11 AM. Reason: typo

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      • Schmerzen
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        #43
        if hagler couldnt finish a washed up leonard, i dont see how pac is gonna KO him.
        i think it would be a close 15 rounds fight.

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        • Great Afrikan
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          #44
          Leonard is top 5 all time, Pac has no chance....Sugar Ray defeated Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler and none of them at catchweight or weight drained...

          All of those fighters are in the hall of fame.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Great Afrikan
            Leonard is top 5 all time, Pac has no chance....Sugar Ray defeated Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler and none of them at catchweight or weight drained...

            All of those fighters are in the hall of fame.
            i agree with you accept top 5 i have ray at 8th

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            • FightFreak
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              #46
              Originally posted by Great Afrikan
              Leonard is top 5 all time, Pac has no chance....Sugar Ray defeated Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler and none of them at catchweight or weight drained...

              All of those fighters are in the hall of fame.
              I dunno about SRL being in the top 5. I do know that Pac has defeated MAB, Morales, JMM, and he's about to beat PBF

              None of them are as good as Benitez and the 4 kings, but they're all a lock to the HOF.

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                #47
                Originally posted by FightFreak
                I dunno about SRL being in the top 5. I do know that Pac has defeated MAB, Morales, JMM, and he's about to beat PBF

                None of them are as good as Benitez and the 4 kings, but they're all a lock to the HOF.
                top 5 goes ali lewis robinson greb armstrong in whatever rank you feel they should go in.

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                • Rorschach™
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                  #48
                  Leonard by UD.

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                  • Bahamut Zero
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Great Afrikan
                    Leonard is top 5 all time, Pac has no chance....Sugar Ray defeated Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler and none of them at catchweight or weight drained...

                    All of those fighters are in the hall of fame.
                    Same line when Pac was about to fight Barrera (first fight), Hatton, Dela Hoya (many even said a weight drained Oscar ****s Manny) and Cotto! Look what happened LOL!

                    MAB, Morales, JMM, Hatton, Dela Hoya, Cotto are ALL HOF lock maybe except for Ricky. And are great themselves and their records stands among those oldies you mentioned!

                    Thing is WE WILL NEVER know. But for the sake of argument, PAC smokes them all except for Hagler (at Middleweight).

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by markbnlv
                      Who takes it people i keep hearing Manny is one in a million and arum said he is as great as ali,i think he is a great fighter but putting him up with the legends is a bit crazy.
                      Leonard and it would be by KO/TKO.

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