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  • jrosales13
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    #11
    Originally posted by markbnlv
    Delahoyas a bit of a toss up but he was a beast in his prime won the gold medal and fought every contender in the division that has to count for something,the Delahoya Manny beat even the Pac fans have to admit was far past his prime and looked weak at the weight he came in at.
    Yes Oscar was a shell against Pac. but, in his prime I felt Whitaker beat him. And, I felt he struggled against John John Molina. And, matter of fact those are the only 2 southpaws I remember him fighting. There probably is more but I can't recall right now. And, I remember Arum that they made sure they kept him away from southpaw. So wit Pac southpaw stance, speed, power, and quickness I could see him beating Oscar.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Yes Oscar was a shell against Pac. but, in his prime I felt Whitaker beat him. And, I felt he struggled against John John Molina. And, matter of fact those are the only 2 southpaws I remember him fighting. There probably is more but I can't recall right now. And, I remember Arum that they made sure they kept him away from southpaw. So wit Pac southpaw stance, speed, power, and quickness I could see him beating Oscar.
      Whitacker fight was damn close i will give you that,and i am not saying Manny would not have a chance i think it would be a hell of a fight,i am just trying to point out that he is not Ali status like people are trying to make him at least not yet.

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        #13
        Originally posted by markbnlv
        Whitacker fight was damn close i will give you that,and i am not saying Manny would not have a chance i think it would be a hell of a fight,i am just trying to point out that he is not Ali status like people are trying to make him at least not yet.
        It was close I think Whitaker pulled it off. And, that was not even a primes Whitaker he was already passed it. But, that was a prime Oscar.

        And, I agree with you about Pac. Some fans on here get carried away with his all time status. He is not even top 20 to me. Ali is really top arguable top 3. Pac would have to do so much for him for him to be considered that great. I mean he is great don't get me wron but he is not Whitaker, Duran, Leonard great. Let alone Ali, Greb, Armstrong, Robinson great.

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          #14
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          It was close I think Whitaker pulled it off. And, that was not even a primes Whitaker he was already passed it. But, that was a prime Oscar.

          And, I agree with you about Pac. Some fans on here get carried away with his all time status. He is not even top 20 to me. Ali is really top arguable top 3. Pac would have to do so much for him for him to be considered that great. I mean he is great don't get me wron but he is not Whitaker, Duran, Leonard great. Let alone Ali, Greb, Armstrong, Robinson great.
          agreed good post,Whitacker was at the end of his prime he never seemed the same after.

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          • oaba09
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            #15
            Pac is already top 25 for me....if he beats floyd, he'll be top 10 for sure....

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            • jaestix1
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              #16
              even if pac beats floyd, it doesn't prove he could beat leonard.....everything pac does leonard does much better. handspeed, accuracy, footwork, ring generalship, chin, defense,and resume....i could go on and on forever.

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                #17
                Originally posted by jaestix1
                even if pac beats floyd, it doesn't prove he could beat leonard.....everything pac does leonard does much better. handspeed, accuracy, footwork, ring generalship, chin, defense,and resume....i could go on and on forever.
                i feel ya man there was some peeps earlier saying that Pac would destroy Hearns all i could think was "someone never watched tommy hearns fight"lol.

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                • MARKBNLV
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by oaba09
                  Pac is already top 25 for me....if he beats floyd, he'll be top 10 for sure....
                  Top ten come on man i can think of 5 wws off the top of the head that were better and thats just in the last 30 years.

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                  • nachorjj
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                    #19
                    Leonard early KO

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                    • The Stone Roses
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                      #20
                      If Pacquiao loses to Floyd then few will compare him to Leonard...but if he wins he will definelty be compared to Leonard....as far as comparing him to Ali....Bob Arum is an idiot

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