What's YOUR TAKE On The Manny Steroid Allegations?

[FightFreak]

Yeah. It has nothing to do with su****ions and it is not possible to be su****ious without also being a bigot if the person you are su****ious about is not in the same ethnic stock. Yep, you nailed it. Damn you're good.

For GG Marquez, it is about race. Read his Paulie thread before you post.

[Puntoyhauf]

Yeah, sure they would... They caught Marion Jones 5-6 years later after the Sydney where she "won" 5 medals.

All that steroid talk, there is millions of different steroids... Not everyone will make you bigger and stronger.

In fight sports steroids are used for recovery after workouts, so you can work harder for longer time, with more effect.

Do i believe Manny uses something, yeah, probably... But he is not the only one, in the end, we can only speculate. I know what one fighter said (who trains in Vegas) about roids, and what kind of science has become that.

And do they even test for HGH?

So, if someone isn't positive it could mean that he cycled correctly and didn't get caught


But you can't tell me that changing three weight classes in one year, fighting against top guys, and beating them easy is possible for everyone.

Either Pacquiao is using something extra, or he is special human being.

You can compare him to Marquez, who also moved up quickly for Floyd fight, there was big difference how they looked, Manny looked great at 145, Marquez looked like **** (much slower, weaker, didn't look right).

Make your own opinion how is that possible.

In the end, no one can be sure.. But i believe he is using something.

I believe this is it...


MALUNGGAY on TINOLA!

(Manny Pacquiao: Basta every fight kumakain ako ng tinola na may maraming Malunggay)

[RockStar45]

The same as said about Canseco when he started accusing baseball players a couple of months later, boom!!!!

For the most part, Canseco was the guy baseball players talked to for advice and information about steroid use. They called him The Godfather of Steroids in baseball circles. Unless Malignaggi is advising Pacquiao on performance enhancers it's not an apples-oranges comparison.

Here's my take:

The Las Vegas Athletic Commission has one of the strongest drug testing policies in the world. But even then, clean tests mean nothing. The drugs are always ahead of the testers, plus there's no way to test for HGH. It's sad to say, but we live in a sports world where high achievement will be looked at with su****ion. And that's because some of the greatest achievements of the last decade have been tainted with performance enhancing drugs.

That said, none of that means Pacquiao is on steroids. Despite what Malignaggi says, Manny was a killer at every level he's competed. The Cotto fight played out similarly to the Barrera fight. He's still fast and strong, but he's lost a step coming up to 147. He's more than made up for that with a vastly improved right hand and ring generalship.

The "Paulie is jealous" argument sounds absurd, but there's a point. Malignaggi was highly embarassed after getting beaten by Cotto and has made it a goal to get a rematch with Miguel and beat him. Now he's seen a "little guy" come up.

Nazeem Richardson has the right analysis on Pacquiao. People see him as a little guy because he started at 106, but that was a decade ago and he's grown into his weight. He was coming to the ring at 140 for the Morales fights. He came to the ring at 147 when he fought the rematch with Marquez. He came to the ring in the high 140s in the Cotto fight. He really hasn't put on a lot of weight in the last 2 years, he just doesn't have to cut at all during training camp.

[fabie]

I believe this is it...


(Manny Pacquiao: Basta every fight kumakain ako ng tinola na may maraming Malunggay)

DOn't forget the WHITE RICE!

[Puntoyhauf]

Ang Malunggay....bow

Malunggay

Called “Malunggay” in the Philippines, “Sajina” in the Indian Subcontinent, and “Moringa” in English, it is a popular tree. Many Asians use the leaves of Malunggay (Sajina) like spinach and also the fruit it produces as a vegetable, like asparagus. Both the leaves and the fruits are very nutritious, which contain many vitamins like Vitamin C and other minerals. For centuries, people in India, Philippines, Malaysia, and Thailand have been eating these leaves as a part of their food.

[FightFreak]

For the most part, Canseco was the guy baseball players talked to for advice and information about steroid use. They called him The Godfather of Steroids in baseball circles. Unless Malignaggi is advising Pacquiao on performance enhancers it's not an apples-oranges comparison.

Here's my take:

The Las Vegas Athletic Commission has one of the strongest drug testing policies in the world. But even then, clean tests mean nothing. The drugs are always ahead of the testers, plus there's no way to test for HGH. It's sad to say, but we live in a sports world where high achievement will be looked at with su****ion. And that's because some of the greatest achievements of the last decade have been tainted with performance enhancing drugs.

That said, none of that means Pacquiao is on steroids. Despite what Malignaggi says, Manny was a killer at every level he's competed. The Cotto fight played out similarly to the Barrera fight. He's still fast and strong, but he's lost a step coming up to 147. He's more than made up for that with a vastly improved right hand and ring generalship.

The "Paulie is jealous" argument sounds absurd, but there's a point. Malignaggi was highly embarassed after getting beaten by Cotto and has made it a goal to get a rematch with Miguel and beat him. Now he's seen a "little guy" come up.

Nazeem Richardson has the right analysis on Pacquiao. People see him as a little guy because he started at 106, but that was a decade ago and he's grown into his weight. He was coming to the ring at 140 for the Morales fights. He came to the ring at 147 when he fought the rematch with Marquez. He came to the ring in the high 140s in the Cotto fight. He really hasn't put on a lot of weight in the last 2 years, he just doesn't have to cut at all during training camp.

Yep, I saw that in the Cotto fight, too. Pac didn't have as much stamina, his punches had more pop but weren't as fast, and he wasn't as nimble either.

[IMDAZED]

They're all using. Yeah, I said it.

FYI: It's coming. There's a major article in the works from a very prominent writer with great connections and he's about to blow the lid. I believe it's still a work in progress but he's writing it. And the names are going to knock your socks off.

[FightFreak]

Nazeem Richardson has the right analysis on Pacquiao. People see him as a little guy because he started at 106, but that was a decade ago and he's grown into his weight. He was coming to the ring at 140 for the Morales fights. He came to the ring at 147 when he fought the rematch with Marquez. He came to the ring in the high 140s in the Cotto fight. He really hasn't put on a lot of weight in the last 2 years, he just doesn't have to cut at all during training camp.

Pac weighed at about 147 or thereabouts in Marquez II, 148 against Diaz, and if reports are correct, came in at a solid 149 on fight night against Cotto.

[Subz]

Damn... So nearly 30% of those who voted thus far think something is going on? Crazy...

It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. One thing is for sure... 24/7 gonna be classic.

[jaestix1]

Seems like there's been a lot of talk about this lately.

Does anyone here believe Manny is actually on roids or are you at all su****ious about it?

in this day you can't count it out but he IS innocent til proven guilty so we should leave it at that. im i su****ious? i be lying if i said no because of how he's been handling all these flush shots above 140....you can say the same for alot of fighters like floyd,shane(guilty), margarito(cheater), cotto etc...all of these fighters are in a day where the science is so advanced there is a possibility that all of them are using it.