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  • nielon
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    #11
    Marga-cheat-o

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    • Smokin'J
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      #12
      Haha I made a thread about Castillo and Margarito resembling the same stain!
      Lots of intelligent people who knew a thing or 2 posted in it, also as usual some ******s who think they know all about boxing by watching a fight.

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      • Mr. David
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        #13
        Originally posted by Smokin'J
        Haha I made a thread about Castillo and Margarito resembling the same stain!
        Lots of intelligent people who knew a thing or 2 posted in it, also as usual some ******s who think they know all about boxing by watching a fight.
        You're the "astute poster" I referenced. If you recall, I asked where you saw the stain, and that sent me to my DVD copy of Corrales-Castillo I.

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        • !! Anorak
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          #14
          Originally posted by PRacrePerAcre1
          What a dumb article in so many ways. I wish I didn't have to study for finals, so I could explain myself.
          Kind of funny reading ******s like yourself dissing a writer whose metaphorical boots you're not fit to lace.

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          • Smokin'J
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            #15
            Originally posted by Mr. David
            You're the "astute poster" I referenced. If you recall, I asked where you saw the stain, and that sent me to my DVD copy of Corrales-Castillo I.
            Ah, glad to help!

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            • Xyei
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              #16
              Originally posted by Nota Loka PR
              Fallen Down Three Times....lol Good Article but i do agree with Sherman... He's a cheating bastard and should never be allowed in the ring again, i dont care if he only did it once.
              Says the guy who has Cheato Triniwraps in his signature? Right buddy.

              Originally posted by braddman
              Seriously this writer doesn't know what the **** he's talking about with Margarito and if he's defending him, he should never be allowed to write about boxing again.
              Did you even read the fucking article, dip****? Of course not.

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              • edgarg
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                #17
                Originally posted by braddman
                Seriously this writer doesn't know what the **** he's talking about with Margarito and if he's defending him, he should never be allowed to write about boxing again.
                The writer has the freedom to epress his opinions, David Greisman has found the blueprint which enables him to lay out his opinions,. and report on fact, in a format that is very suitable to our genre, and very interesting to read.

                I don't think he was boosting up Margarito, just comenting on an interesting point or two.

                By the way, some boxing analyst, maybe Larry Merchant, suggested that the pink/red stain on the bandages, might result from trhe perspiration of the hand, making the red/brown boxing leach out it's colour. This seem to me to be a sound reason, and, possibly, correct. I've actually seen this happen.

                We'll know, when they analyse the stain.

                By the way, I'm still looking for boxing contacts in Panama City Panama.

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                • Corelone
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                  #18
                  Better drug testing proceedures knocked Roy Jones out. Don't think he woudn't do anything he could to win. He was forced to get off the juice, but he can't perform without it.

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                  • Sin City
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                    #19
                    the guy who wrote this article is an idiot. what is in question is not that there was a blood stain on the handwrap.. what's in question is whether it was the same pad used in the cotto fight. the stain is in the same exact place it was in the cotto fight. no one is saying that because there was blood on the wrap there must've been plaster.. what they are saying is the blood on the wrap is in the very same position where it was against cotto so could it be the same wrap?

                    he should really think himself before he posts articles. because his article wasn't very well thought out obviously.

                    he forgets to mention that the inspectors and nas said the wrap was old and looked like it had been used previously. how long does it take a knuckle to heal? especially having rest? you can't tell me that margarito had a hand injury that kept his wound open from one fight to the next.. we've seen footage of press conferences in between the two fights and his hand was fine before the Mosley fight.. so it's obvious that stain came from before that.

                    ALSO.. there is a picture of Margarito's handwrap cracking..
                    under NO circumstances should a handwrap EVER crack.

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                    • Mr. David
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                      #20
                      Abbadon:

                      I know that Margarito had tampered hand wraps on when caught just before the Mosley fight. I believe it's highly probably that he's had tampered hand wraps before.

                      But... and here's the big thing here:

                      We can believe all we want. We've got good reason for it. But there's nothing definite, and the circumstantial evidence wouldn't hold up beyond a reasonable doubt.

                      Just because Margarito had a stain on his hand wraps post-Cotto -- and just because the wrap Margarito had on for the Mosley fight had a similar stain -- does not mean that Margarito had plaster of Paris on for Cotto. The tampering could've taken place after the Cotto fight, with the plaster being added to the pad/wraps anytime between the Cotto fight and the Mosley fight.

                      Do I believe that? No. But one cannot just point to a stain in one picture and a stain in the other picture and say "It must be so."

                      And when HBO points to the pink, says the pink was the plaster of Paris, then, after the segment, says one of its producers says the plaster of Paris wasn't pink, then they've just undercut their own point. And throw in the pink stain on Diego Corrales post-Castillo, and we get more questions than we have answers.

                      At no point am I excusing Margarito or proclaiming his innocence. Rather, I'm saying the latest indictment had flawed logic, and the Corrales picture raised my eyebrows.

                      Again, do I think Margarito had tampered hand wraps in other fights? It makes sense. But we can't prove it.

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