Bernard Hopkins 2004` manager of the year... WHY???

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Bernard Hopkins 2004` manager of the year... WHY???

Can someone please clear this up for me coz' it's got me completely baffled!

Hopkins arranged a 3rd!!! Fight with Robert Allen, and then a complete MISS-MATCH with Oscar De La Hoya.

That sounds like a bad year to me?

How was this considered good management skills?

[Truth]

Bernard Hopkins 2004` manager of the year... WHY???

Can someone please clear this up for me coz' it's got me completely baffled!

Hopkins arranged a 3rd!!! Fight with Robert Allen, and then a complete MISS-MATCH with Oscar De La Hoya.

That sounds like a bad year to me?

How was this considered good management skills?

Bernard Hopkins does things his way and doesn't care what people think.

[deuce_drop]

i think that, because he has been managing himself for along time and started setting up big fights for himself, and continued to keep winning; despite all the court battles and ****. and still managed to continue managing himself, that by 2004 he was mabye worthy of such an award??? and trains and fights the fights he sets up.....what do you do????
i think that he deserving of the award.....even if! he isn't or wasn't...... he should be.......

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Bernard Hopkins does things his way and doesn't care what people think.

But that doesn't help me... He may do things "his way", doesn't mean he's doing a good job of it?

My perfect example would be Audley Harrison...

So... "Bernard Hopkins 2004` manager of the year... WHY???"

[Truth]

But that doesn't help me... He may do things "his way", doesn't mean he's doing a good job of it?

My perfect example would be Audley Harrison...

So... "Bernard Hopkins 2004` manager of the year... WHY???"

Well he made alot of money and history by signing for the De La Hoya and Allen fight. And then he made another good deal by sigining with Golden Boy Promotions. Maybe to you that doesn't sound good, but technically they were all good buisness moves by B-Hop.

[Bombardier]

He managed to get into and win a fight with a genuine superstar both in and out of boxing, and then got himself named VP of his promotion company. Business-wise, he had a killer year. Whether or not you agree with his choices of opponents purely as a boxing fan...well, that's another matter. But think of it this way: how many other fighters would want to have the sorts of years that Bernard Hopkins the manager arranged for Bernard Hopkinfs the fighter? Probably nearly all of them.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

i think that, because he has been managing himself for along time and started setting up big fights for himself, and continued to keep winning; despite all the court battles and ****. and still managed to continue managing himself, that by 2004 he was mabye worthy of such an award??? and trains and fights the fights he sets up.....what do you do????
i think that he deserving of the award.....even if! he isn't or wasn't...... he should be.......

This wasn't an award of the decade... It was 2004' manager of the year award.

That's really up to him if he wishes to train, manager, promote, and box himself... There are many other fighters out there that do the same thing.

Personally I wouldn't call - Daniels, Hakker, "shot to pieces" Joppy, "for the 7th time" Allen, "miss-match" De La Hoya, a good way on capitalising on a victory over the Welterweight champ Trinidad. - Maybe if he'd have let someone else manager/promote him, he may have been able to get some meaningfull fights?

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

He managed to get into and win a fight with a genuine superstar both in and out of boxing, and then got himself named VP of his promotion company. Business-wise, he had a killer year. Whether or not you agree with his choices of opponents purely as a boxing fan...well, that's another matter. But think of it this way: how many other fighters would want to have the sorts of years that Bernard Hopkins the manager arranged for Bernard Hopkinfs the fighter? Probably nearly all of them.

I really HOPE that not many do... Otherwise the day's of great match-ups and wars like Morales/Pacman/Barrera would be gone.

And instead we'd get all fighters calling everyone out, but actually only ever fighting guy's in lower divisions. Ducking and diving... Fighters that only care about money and not the glory.

[Bombardier]

I really HOPE that not many do... Otherwise the day's of great match-ups and wars like Morales/Pacman/Barrera would be gone.

And instead we'd get all fighters calling everyone out, but actually only ever fighting guy's in lower divisions. Ducking and diving... Fighters that only care about money and not the glory.

Hmm...well, that's a pretty negative view of Hopkins' career since the Trinidad fight. Not entirely inaccurate, though, I guess . Still, overall in his career Hopkins has done more than enough to prove his talents. It's tough to compare anyone to the trio you mentioned.

[Tha Greatest]

This wasn't an award of the decade... It was 2004' manager of the year award.

That's really up to him if he wishes to train, manager, promote, and box himself... There are many other fighters out there that do the same thing.

Personally I wouldn't call - Daniels, Hakker, "shot to pieces" Joppy, "for the 7th time" Allen, "miss-match" De La Hoya, a good way on capitalising on a victory over the Welterweight champ Trinidad. - Maybe if he'd have let someone else manager/promote him, he may have been able to get some meaningfull fights?

Martinwbc.......

Can you shut the **** up and stop talkin **** about hopkins in every thread, if your going to, quit sayin DeLaHoya was a mismatch, I'm sure just about all the boxing fans wanted to see that fight at the time and why shouldnt he fight dlh for all that fame and money