James Toney. True Heavyweight Champion

[Truth]

Goosen and King and buddies and King got options on Ruiz....Toney disrespects King in the media front but gives him respect behind the curtain....Otherwise he would have waited for his shot at the WBC title.

If Ruiz hugs Toney loses.

When Ruiz holds Toney should throw two hooks to the body and then come up the middle with the uppercut.

[spinksjinx]

When Ruiz holds Toney should throw two hooks to the body and then come up the middle with the uppercut.

SHOULD and will is two different things though, Mind you Ruiz will smother your upper body and take your shots away. He does it with all of his fighters hell Rahman should have obliterated him and Ruiz just killed that mans career.

The blueprint to beat Ruiz is the Tua way which no heavyweight can or will be able to do. Then their is the Jones way to beat Ruiz you have to have great footwork and speed in your legs. Sure Toney has fast hands but those wont matter when he cant get the shots off on Ruiz as Ruiz is hugging him to much. To beat Ruiz you have to stay on the outside and use your jab and follow through with hooks...I wouldnt recommend uppercuts on Ruiz either, he will grab your arm and pull you in.

A good example of beating Ruiz is to watch the Jones fight, but during the first few rounds in the Golota fight Andrew stayed on the outside and gave Ruiz a beating....

You get close you lose, Ruiz is like messing with fire...You will get burned.

[joeboxer]

There is also the Holyfield way. Which was also stay outside and box. I think there may also be the James Toney way. When has Ruiz ever fought against an inside fighter like Toney?

[spinksjinx]

There is also the Holyfield way. Which was also stay outside and box. I think there may also be the James Toney way. When has Ruiz ever fought against an inside fighter like Toney?

Hasim Rahman.

[joeboxer]

Hasim Rahman.

The Rock is known for his athletisim not his boxing skills. I don't think that you can compare the fight that Rock and Toney bring to the table.

[Truth]

The Rock is known for his athletisim not his boxing skills. I don't think that you can compare the fight that Rock and Toney bring to the table.

Yeah they have two different styles...

[spinksjinx]

Yeah they have two different styles...

Unless you fast on your feet styles mean **** as Ruiz smothers the upperbody and that is where Toney is remotely quick at....

[Neuraxis]

I must have missed it. Who did Rydell Booker beat for the belt?

[Truth]

Unless you fast on your feet styles mean **** as Ruiz smothers the upperbody and that is where Toney is remotely quick at....

This is just my personal opinion on this fight:

-I know that Ruiz usually holds and wins
-I know he smothers his opponents when they come in
-But the last time he fought someone on the skill level of Toney he was beaten badly.
-I know that Toney isn't as fast on his feet as Jones
-I think Toney will find away to make Ruiz pay when they tie up
-I think Toney is just too good of a fighter for Ruiz and will end up either stopping him or getting a wide UD.
-This isn't an out of shape Hasim Rahman or an old Andrew Golata
-This is a hungry fighter who will be a hall of famer when he retires
-James Toney should and will win this fight


-THE END

[Enayze]

Vitali has done less than all of the belt holders (aside from Lame ass Lamon) to be considered champion.

If Toney beats Ruiz and then goes onto fight Byrd then YES he will be considered the TRUE heavyweight champion.

Unfortunately in my book there are 2 Byrd and Ruiz...Both have the best resumes and fought the best of the best...Of course Byrd comes in second place...RUIZ IS THE MAN AT HEAVY!

Hopefully come April 30th Toney takes it away and ACTUALLY keeps up the high caliber of opponents Ruiz has and doesnt defend it on Fox Sports against the Rydell's you know?

I want the winner of Ruiz/Toney to fight Byrd plain and simple.

He will be considered heavyweight champ by your standards, but to 80% of the Worlds population and Ring Magazine he will only be second best next to Vitali.