James Toney. True Heavyweight Champion

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  • joeboxer
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    James Toney. True Heavyweight Champion

    With Vitali out of the picture does this mean that if James Toney wins he will be the true heavyweight champion?

    If refuse to accept an interim champion that lost to John Ruiz or and interim champion who lost to Joe Mesi.

    Chris Bryd might have a claim to be the best champion out there because he would have held a belt the longest.

    In my opinion if James Toney wins and then fights Chris Bryd the winner of that fight would be the real champ. As long as Vitali isn't around.
  • Run
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    I would have to say: Perhaps.



    The Boss might have something to say about that, If and when he gets a shot after he blows Castillo out of the water. For the sake of "Championship belts". Yes. It would be between Byrd and Toney IMO.



    Things could possibly change soon though.



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    Last edited by Run; 04-17-2005, 11:14 PM.

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    • snap the jab
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      God I can't stand James Toney...

      ****ing amazing fighter though - I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that loudmouth s.o.b. pulled it off.

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      • enadeus
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        If James Toney beats Ruiz by KO or TKO then yes he is the true heavyweight champion. I think Byrd can beat Toney without problems. Toney is overweight and outof shape, Byrd would win by scorecards. Ruiz can beat Toney if he uses his hugging technique well this fight or if he suprises Toney and goes all out in a slug fest. When Vitali Klitschko comes back its lights out for Toney.

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        • Kid Achilles
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          No. Toney will not be the true heavyweight champion until he beats Vitali.

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          • enadeus
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            #6
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            No. Toney will not be the true heavyweight champion until he beats Vitali.
            He can't beat Vitali :-)

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            • Kid Achilles
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              Exactly. He'll never be the heavyweight champion.

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              • spinksjinx
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                #8
                Vitali has done less than all of the belt holders (aside from Lame ass Lamon) to be considered champion.

                If Toney beats Ruiz and then goes onto fight Byrd then YES he will be considered the TRUE heavyweight champion.

                Unfortunately in my book there are 2 Byrd and Ruiz...Both have the best resumes and fought the best of the best...Of course Byrd comes in second place...RUIZ IS THE MAN AT HEAVY!

                Hopefully come April 30th Toney takes it away and ACTUALLY keeps up the high caliber of opponents Ruiz has and doesnt defend it on Fox Sports against the Rydell's you know?

                I want the winner of Ruiz/Toney to fight Byrd plain and simple.

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                • enadeus
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                  I think if Toney will beat Ruiz that Byrd vs Toney will be unlikely. I don't think Toney is under Don King promotions and for Don King to lose another title if Toney is succesful against Byrd wouldn't be favorable for him. Unless Toney becomes mandatory I don't think we will see Byrd vs Toney.

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                  • spinksjinx
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by deuskie
                    I think if Toney will beat Ruiz that Byrd vs Toney will be unlikely. I don't think Toney is under Don King promotions and for Don King to lose another title if Toney is succesful against Byrd wouldn't be favorable for him. Unless Toney becomes mandatory I don't think we will see Byrd vs Toney.

                    Goosen and King are buddies and King got options on Toney....Toney disrespects King in the media front but gives him respect behind the curtain....Otherwise he would have waited for his shot at the WBC title.

                    If Ruiz hugs Toney loses.
                    Last edited by spinksjinx; 04-18-2005, 10:58 AM.

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