Is the heavyweight division filled with fat slobs in your opinion?

[THe TRiNiTY]

Some of the Heavyweights are fat and out of shape. However, one of those slobs is Chris Arreola who has proven that he can beat anyone but one of the best in the division. Otherwise, he's a force.

Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali are in great shape. Some of the the guys they fight are out of shape, but not truly the WORST fighters. The brothers make them look the part, however.

The division is probably in the bottom half of the rankings in terms of where the divisions would rank, with talent being the determining factor. However, they have had some decent fights, lately. Sexto might not amount to much, but he's undefeated and is still in decent shape.

The fat amateur from Cuba is still one of the better technician in the game, he just needs to slim down from the weight he's at. However, a lot of the weight helps him out at Heavyweight.

David Haye and Tomasz Adamek both come to the ring in great shape.

Eddie Chambers has slimmed down, as well. Perhaps the most athletic in the division, naturally as well.

Great skills. The same could be said for Alexander Povetkin, as well.

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I think that from a typical idiot sport fan prespective they would seem to be out of shape slobs. But then again Sports fans wouldn't know their asss from their head so who cares what people on this board think. HW fighters now a days are no longer the size of Joe Louis and Floyd Patterson. They are hulking powerhouses that are obviously underskilled but out of shape??? Not really!! In fact they are in better shape cardio wise then fighters from the 50's and 40's because they carry that extra bulk and still perform in the ring at an elite level.


I just wanna ask you guys somthing. You do know the diffrence between looking good and having good cardio right? If these HW fighters go 12 rounds and don't gas anymore than anyother typical fighter then whats the problem?


Remember boxing isn't a beauty contest it's a fight and 99% of the people in the world are just not gonna have the genetics to look like Vitali and Wlad when weighing 240+pounds.

If Eddie Chambers and Chris Arreola looked like Vitali and Wlad then they wouldn't be fighting in the HW division. They would be fighting at cruiser or LHW. Bet none of you ******s thought about that did you?

[Freddy Krueger]

I think that from a typical idiot sport fan prespective they would seem to be out of shape slobs. But then again Sports fans wouldn't know their asss from their head so who cares what people on this board think. HW fighters now a days are no longer the size of Joe Louis and Floyd Patterson. They are hulking powerhouses that are obviously underskilled but out of shape??? Not really!! In fact they are in better shape cardio wise then fighters from the 50's and 40's because they carry that extra bulk and still perform in the ring at an elite level.


I just wanna ask you guys somthing. You do know the diffrence between looking good and having good cardio right? If these HW fighters go 12 rounds and don't gas anymore than anyother typical fighter then whats the problem?


Remember boxing isn't a beauty contest it's a fight and 99% of the people in the world are just not gonna have the genetics to look like Vitali and Wlad when weighing 240+pounds.

If Eddie Chambers and Chris Arreola looked like Vitali and Wlad then they wouldn't be fighting in the HW division. They would be fighting at cruiser or LHW. Bet none of you ******s thought about that did you?

Yes, Devin Vargas is a beast with his man *******. His cardio must be great!

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Yes, Devin Vargas is a beast with his man *******. His cardio must be great!

Well give me an example where his stamina hurt him? And don't confuse underskilled for poor Cardio THERE IS A DIFFRENCE! The guy has had lots of fights and some even on TV. You forget that the NFL is full of guys that are even bigger and fatter than Devin and they still run up and down the field like deer for 3 hours and don't really get winded like you think they would. Seriously you people are dilusional to think that only people with chizzled pecks can have good cardio. Welcome to the real ***ing world ladies!!

[paul750]

I think that from a typical idiot sport fan prespective they would seem to be out of shape slobs. But then again Sports fans wouldn't know their asss from their head so who cares what people on this board think. HW fighters now a days are no longer the size of Joe Louis and Floyd Patterson. They are hulking powerhouses that are obviously underskilled but out of shape??? Not really!! In fact they are in better shape cardio wise then fighters from the 50's and 40's because they carry that extra bulk and still perform in the ring at an elite level.


I just wanna ask you guys somthing. You do know the diffrence between looking good and having good cardio right? If these HW fighters go 12 rounds and don't gas anymore than anyother typical fighter then whats the problem?


Remember boxing isn't a beauty contest it's a fight and 99% of the people in the world are just not gonna have the genetics to look like Vitali and Wlad when weighing 240+pounds.

If Eddie Chambers and Chris Arreola looked like Vitali and Wlad then they wouldn't be fighting in the HW division. They would be fighting at cruiser or LHW. Bet none of you ******s thought about that did you?

I remember discussing this with you before. You seem very, very passionate about this subject, eh. Fighters are a lot bigger now, and yes, a lot of heavyweights are in shape. But it's obvious who's really not in shape. Fighters at the top level shouldn't be carrying around 20-30lbs of surplus weight on them. It does nothing for them..

Arreola was 229lbs at one point, so there's no excuse there. Chambers has also cut his weight down after carrying extra. David Haye is in excellent shape.

[The_Demon]

yes the HW division is weak
outside of vitali and haye,even the guys that are in shape are robots and very boring too watch

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I think that from a typical idiot sport fan prespective they would seem to be out of shape slobs. But then again Sports fans wouldn't know their asss from their head so who cares what people on this board think. HW fighters now a days are no longer the size of Joe Louis and Floyd Patterson. They are hulking powerhouses that are obviously underskilled but out of shape??? Not really!! In fact they are in better shape cardio wise then fighters from the 50's and 40's because they carry that extra bulk and still perform in the ring at an elite level.


I just wanna ask you guys somthing. You do know the diffrence between looking good and having good cardio right? If these HW fighters go 12 rounds and don't gas anymore than anyother typical fighter then whats the problem?


Remember boxing isn't a beauty contest it's a fight and 99% of the people in the world are just not gonna have the genetics to look like Vitali and Wlad when weighing 240+pounds.

If Eddie Chambers and Chris Arreola looked like Vitali and Wlad then they wouldn't be fighting in the HW division. They would be fighting at cruiser or LHW. Bet none of you ******s thought about that did you?

this is really funny
do u actually notice the pace fat heavyweights are fighting in nowadays? when throwing little punches and plodding around the ring one doesnt really have to be shape

even funnier, fighters from the '40s and '50s often went 20 rounds or more

its notable that arreola and chambers came in at a much better shape for their biggest fights, this actually proves they can get into shape but are simply too lazy most of the time

also notable, todays only notable ripped heavyweights are the klitschkos and haye, it shouldnt be a coincidence theyre the rulers of the division

[edgarg]

No. Because these guys are in shape:

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Francesco Pianeta
Denis Boytsov
Kubrat Pulev
Gbenga Olouken
Lamon Brewster
Rene Dettweiler
Ondrej Pala
Sam Sexton
Mariusz Wach
Denis Bakhtov
Oleg Platov
Timor Ibragimov
Andrzej Wawrzyk
Sebastian Koeber
Taras *****ko
Derek Chisora

And many more.

90% of the American heavyweights are fat, though.

Also Maskaev and Valuev, always in shape.

[edgarg]

this is really funny
do u actually notice the pace fat heavyweights are fighting in nowadays? when throwing little punches and plodding around the ring one doesnt really have to be shape

even funnier, fighters from the '40s and '50s often went 20 rounds or more

its notable that arreola and chambers came in at a much better shape for their biggest fights, this actually proves they can get into shape but are simply too lazy most of the time

also notable, todays only notable ripped heavyweights are the klitschkos and haye, it shouldnt be a coincidence theyre the rulers of the division

I think the last 20 round fight was sometime in the early 1920's. I came across it only incidentally about a year ago, so I could be out by a few years.

But I recall very well reading all about the Jack Johnson- Jess Willard fight, in 1915 which basically was a "fight to a finish" 45 rounds, because the "big guys" wanted to get rid of Johnson from the Championship position.

45 rounds for a 37 year old fat, out of condition guy like Johnson, was truly a "fight to a finish".

Yet, if it had been even a 25 round fight, [which was still legal but not being used much by then] Johnson would have won easily, because he had been beating Willard all around the ring for over 20 rounds, only to fail in the 26th.

Yes, every time I think of Johnson, I'm reminded of the cruelty of law and boxing humanity in those days. He was treated so badly, victimised, jailed unfairly, and really "railroaded".

But, would you believe that the U.S,. Government has not yet pardoned Johnson for that framed up "law" case against him............................ DISGUSTING !!!

[paul750]

McCall always whips himself into shape, personal problems or not.