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  • El_Cholo
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    #11
    Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
    Hopkins would UD Haye. He'll systematically break him down. Let's not forget you need pressure+workrate or Footwork+handspeed to beat Hopkins. If you don't have one of those two combinations then you will not beat Bernard Hopkins. Haye has speed and power, speed and power does not beat a fighter like Hopkins unless you have speed, power, workrate and footwork. Haye doesn't even have stamina.

    Haye would be taken to school by Hopkins' counterpunching. It'll be Hopkins vs Tarver all over again.
    Once Haye connects with Hopkins and has him reeling then its game over, come on get real.

    Haye's power alone could seriously damage Hopkins.

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #12
      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
      Hopkins would UD Haye. He'll systematically break him down. Let's not forget you need pressure+workrate or Footwork+handspeed to beat Hopkins. If you don't have one of those two combinations then you will not beat Bernard Hopkins. Haye has speed and power, speed and power does not beat a fighter like Hopkins unless you have speed, power, workrate and footwork. Haye doesn't even have stamina.

      Haye would be taken to school by Hopkins' counterpunching. It'll be Hopkins vs Tarver all over again.
      Kevin no.....your not thinking realistically. Did you see the fight tonight? It was way to competitive for B-hop to be thinking about Haye. Haye has improved his stamina, he was on his bicycle for 12 rounds against Valuve and didn't look too winded to me.

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      • PensionKiller
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        #13
        Hopkins has a chin but Haye is almost as fast but a lot more power. Haye could fight smart and get a late KO IMO. Hopkins can't **** about with holding because haye is a big man

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          #14
          Hopkins has to be getting senile to even consider this fight...

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          • Kevin Jesus
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            #15
            Originally posted by Blairhoyle792
            Once Haye connects with Hopkins and has him reeling then its game over, come on get real.

            Haye's power alone could seriously damage Hopkins.
            Power does not beat Hopkins. Hopkins has proven that time after time. If I had a dime for every tread I read about Pavlik talking about If i land flush it's over, i'd be rich. He never landed anything because he relied on his power, power, and power and just ended up getting schooled.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
              Power does not beat Hopkins. Hopkins has proven that time after time. If I had a dime for every tread I read about Pavlik talking about If i land flush it's over, i'd be rich. He never landed anything because he relied on his power, power, and power and just ended up getting schooled.
              Haye>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavlik. He is a much better boxer, can move side to side unlike Pavlik, and has excellent speed. What do you mean power can't beat Hopkins? enough power can beat anyone, a shot you can't handle is landed on you and your done. Its as simple as that, clenching won't work because Hopkins won't be strong enough to rough Haye up in there.

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              • El_Cholo
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                Power does not beat Hopkins. Hopkins has proven that time after time. If I had a dime for every tread I read about Pavlik talking about If i land flush it's over, i'd be rich. He never landed anything because he relied on his power, power, and power and just ended up getting schooled.
                Haye's power will.

                Watch him knock out Gurov, Bonin and Maccarinelli. Plus if he can wobble Valuev then he can seriously damage a blown up middleweight.

                There is a difference with Pavlik and Haye. Haye is far more powerful, has more speed and better movement

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                • Kevin Jesus
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Kevin no.....your not thinking realistically. Did you see the fight tonight? It was way to competitive for B-hop to be thinking about Haye. Haye has improved his stamina, he was on his bicycle for 12 rounds against Valuve and didn't look too winded to me.
                  You're actually going to compare how Hopkins would do against Haye by talking about the Ornelas fight Spray? Ornelas is a swarmer, Haye is not. Styles make fights, Haye can not beat Hopkins. Now I really want this fight to happen. I hope it does.

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                  • Kevin Jesus
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    Haye>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavlik. He is a much better boxer, can move side to side unlike Pavlik, and has excellent speed. What do you mean power can't beat Hopkins? enough power can beat anyone, a shot you can't handle is landed on you and your done. Its as simple as that, clenching won't work because Hopkins won't be strong enough to rough Haye up in there.
                    I want this fight to happen, i'd be e-rich from what i see

                    45 years old and people still think that power beats him. No workrate/stamina/handspeed? no beat Hopkins, sorry.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                      You're actually going to compare how Hopkins would do against Haye by talking about the Ornelas fight Spray? Ornelas is a swarmer, Haye is not. Styles make fights, Haye can not beat Hopkins. Now I really want this fight to happen. I hope it does.
                      Ornelas is a c class MW who put up a decent fight against supposedly one of the best LHWs in the world and you want me to believe he could be competitive with Haye who is bigger, faster, an excellent boxer in his own right, and ko's almost everyone he fights at CW and HW?

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