Mayweather stans, stfu

[jrv1932]

Changing a date to a fight isn't ducking.


Its changing a date.

Ducking is telling a man you're going to fight him, and then retire before he wins the biggest fight of his career.

Ducking is refusing to fight the best competition in the weight class you've been in for 5 years.


You clowns are so simple that you can't grasp the simple concept of, get this,

changing the date.


There is no double standard or hypocrisy going on.

Manny has never said he was the best fighter of all time while refusing to face the best competition, Floyd has, which is why he catches flak.

All of you clowns used to scream all day,

"just wait, the fight needs proper build up"
"just give him time, he just had a fight"
"its his health not yours, he needs to rest his body"
"this is a business, you don't understand or know what goes on behind closed doors".


Changing the date does not absolve Floyd from his criticism of actually ducking fighters.


If the fight isn't made for sometime in 2010, then yes, you have a legitimate claim and I'll side with you.

As it stands,

its simply changing the date. The same exact thing Floyd did with Marquez.

you also twist facts, however. Mayweather has been a ww for 4 years and 1 month and was retired for 21 months meaning hes been an active ww for about 2 and a half years. He never avoided Mosley before he retired. He tried to make the fight and shane didnt want it at the time. Its only now that shane calls him out and floyd is trying to fight pac. He cant be ducking mosley when hes trying to fight the top guy. Cottos camp never showed interest in floyd. Floyd tried at 140. Yes there wad Margarito but Arum wanted options on floyds future with that fight and it may have hurt the chances to get the oscar fight so he took baldomir who was the ww champ for the same money.

[jrosales13]

you also twist facts, however. Mayweather has been a ww for 4 years and 1 month and was retired for 21 months meaning hes been an active ww for about 2 and a half years. [B]He never avoided Mosley before he retired. He tried to make the fight and shane didnt want it at the time. Its only now that shane calls him out and floyd is trying to fight pac. He cant be ducking mosley when hes trying to fight the top guy. Cottos camp never showed interest in floyd. Floyd tried at 140. Yes there wad Margarito but Arum wanted options on floyds future[/B] with that fight and it may have hurt the chances to get the oscar fight so he took baldomir who was the ww champ for the same money.

Shane wanted in January not November. Shane was willing to fight him in 2007.

When Floyd was at 140 was Floyd an elite fighter?

What options did Arum want when the Margarito deal was presented? Arum already had Floyd under contract. It was Floyd who wanted guarantees that Arum couldn't guarantee. And, it was Floyd who paid $750,000 to buy out his contract with Arum.

[Vasyl’s dad]

you also twist facts, however. Mayweather has been a ww for 4 years and 1 month and was retired for 21 months meaning hes been an active ww for about 2 and a half years. He never avoided Mosley before he retired. He tried to make the fight and shane didnt want it at the time. Its only now that shane calls him out and floyd is trying to fight pac. He cant be ducking mosley when hes trying to fight the top guy. Cottos camp never showed interest in floyd. Floyd tried at 140. Yes there wad Margarito but Arum wanted options on floyds future with that fight and it may have hurt the chances to get the oscar fight so he took baldomir who was the ww champ for the same money.

Don't make me go in on you.

Please, you don't want to embarrass yourself.

[johncods]

If pac fights someone else in march then we'll have a problem but i dont think they are going to fight in march thats 3 months from now...

[The Gambler1981]

Shane wanted in January not November. Shane was willing to fight him in 2007.

When Floyd was at 140 was Floyd an elite fighter?

What options did Arum want when the Margarito deal was presented? Arum already had Floyd under contract. It was Floyd who wanted guarantees that Arum couldn't guarantee. And, it was Floyd who paid $750,000 to buy out his contract with Arum.

You seriously think that Arum would just give Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito who was basically an unknown at that point with no strings attached? Also keep in mind that Oscar and Arum had serious beef at that point so if Floyd wanted Oscar getting away from Arum even if it involved turning down big paydays needed to happean.

[carts]

its simply changing the date. The same exact thing Floyd did with Marquez.

now this ****s on all the floyd stans thread about pac ducking floyd!! so just *****s STFU already!!

[Syf]

When Floyd was at 140 was Floyd an elite fighter?

Yes on that one, sir.

Just Floyd's resume below 140 made him elite, at that time.

Don't forget, Cotto was there to witness the Gatti fight. He didn't look all that inspired to go seeking out Mayweather in that film did he.

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Tapatio. Fact remains... If Floyd were doing what Pac is doing, you guys would be throwing **** all over him for ducking.

Hell... You were throwing **** all over him, assuming the worst, when we were WAITING for negotiations and nothing had even been said yet!

And I'm a fan of both fighters.

[jrosales13]

You seriously think that Arum would just give Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito who was basically an unknown at that point with no strings attached? Also keep in mind that Oscar and Arum had serious beef at that point so if Floyd wanted Oscar getting away from Arum even if it involved turning down big paydays needed to happean.

Ellerbe said the 8mil offer was legit for the fight to be in August. So yes I think would give Floyd 8mil to fight Margarito who ranked at #2 at WW. Who had the best record against top 10 WWs at the time. And, who had a solid fan base in the west coast and amongst Mexicans. I understand about the Oscar fight. Which I have always said was fine. But, lets not think for 1 second that the 8mil was not true cuz it was. Lets we know that Margarito was a tougher than a Baldomir fight. Again Floyd made the right decision not to fight Margarito so he could fight Oscar in a business sense. But, the Margarito offer was legit and the fight IMO was more credible than Baldomir and Oscar. In a sense that I didn't give neither Oscar or Baldomir a chance to beating Floyd at the time. And, I thought Margarito-Floyd was a 50-50 fight at the time. But, I also know I was in the minority in that.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes on that one, sir.

Just Floyd's resume below 140 made him elite, at that time.

Don't forget, Cotto was there to witness the Gatti fight. He didn't look all that inspired to go seeking out Mayweather in that film did he.

. . .


Tapatio. Fact remains... If Floyd were doing what Pac is doing, you guys would be throwing **** all over him for ducking.

Hell... You were throwing **** all over him, assuming the worst, when we were WAITING for negotiations and nothing had even been said yet!

And I'm a fan of both fighters.

Fact remains,

Floyds a known ducker.

Thats why he gets the criticism.

[$partacus]

now this ****s on all the floyd stans thread about pac ducking floyd!! so just *****s STFU already!!

1. Mayweather was injured
2. The fight was signed already
3. A new date was organised very quickly.
4. Pacquiaos team wanted the March date.