Roy Jones Jr. The ducks he made at supermiddleweight.

[CiganoBoxer]

I did a little research on Roy Jones Jr. and the opposition he fought as a SMW.

Jones was in essense fighting in the 168 lb division from 1993 until 1996.

Keys:

RED = Eventually fought them or fought them already
BLUE = Fought them in that year.

The year end rankings of 1992 looked like this:

1: Michael Nunn
2: Iran Barkley
3: Chris Eubank
4: Victor Cordoba
5: Nigel Benn
6: Tim Littles
7: Darrin Van Horn
8: Tony Thornton
9: Frankie Liles
10: Frank Nicotra

He fought Thornton in 1995.

1993:

1: James Toney
2: Michael Nunn
3: Chris Eubank
4: Nigel Benn
5: Tim Littles
6: Darrin Van Horn
7: Frankie Liles
8: Tony Thornton
9: Antoine Byrd
10: Vincenzo Nardiello


1994: Jones enters the list at no. 1 after beating Toney.

1: Roy Jones Jr.
2: Nigel Benn
3: Chris Eubank
4: Frankie Liles
5: Vinny Pazienza
6: Tim Littles
7: Michael Nunn
8: Ray Close
9: Graciano Rocchigiani
10: Antoine Byrd


1995:

1: Roy Jones Jr.
2: Nigel Benn
3: Steve Collins
4: Frankie Liles
5: Tim Littles
6: Vinny Pazienza
7: Bryant Brannon
8: Henry Wharton
9: Michael Nunn
10: Ray Close


1996:

1: Roy Jones Jr.
2: Frankie Liles
3: Steve Collins
4: Vinny Pazienza
5: Robin Reid
6: Henry Wharton
7: Michael Nunn
8: Vincenzo Nardiello
9: Joseph Kiwanuka
10: Thulani Malinga

At the end of 1996 Jones had moved up.

So Jones work after 4 years at 168 lb consist of an excellent win over Toney and not much else:

Toney
Thornton
Pazienza (LOL)
Byrd
Brannon

Jones never fought a top 3 opponent after Toney. He had 6 fights at 168 after beating him. Of those fights he beat an unranked Thornton, a suspected juiced lightweight in Pazienza, a past it Byrd, a never was in Sosa, a young non-threat in Lucas and a veteran of 16 fights in Brannon.


So the deserving fighters Jones didn't fight (or ducked as it's called on NSB) is these guys:

Nunn
Benn
Eubank
Collins
Barkley
Cordoba
Littles
Van Horn
Liles
Nardiello
Close
Rocchigianni
Nicotra


Let's face it. A Nunn or a Benn or a Eubank or a Liles or even a Collins would have been real nice.

(I hope I didn't miss anyone )

Wow i didn't realize Roy dodged so many fighters at SM

[Smash]

Eubank was 29 and undefeated when he fought collins, reality check

[IMDAZED]

Its not my problem if you say there is plenty of evidence to support the theory that calzaghe ducked jones but cant provide it, its yours

If you dont like the arguement im making then just ignore me instead of indirectly making snippy little remarks

I'm at work so unfortunately you'd have to wait. But if your idea of evidence is something Joe Calzaghe said then you're in for a rude awakening. Bias won't help you here. I have no problems ignoring you either, bud. In fact, I thought I already did so please return the favor.

[The Noose]

That list makes Jones look quite bad.

[IMDAZED]

That list makes Jones look quite bad.

This has been a pretty good thread. But the TS's post has already been debunked.

[Earl-Hickey]

Eubank was 29 and undefeated when he fought collins, reality check

Tyson was 23 and Undefeated when he lost to douglas

[CiganoBoxer]

That list makes Jones look quite bad.

At smw it does but ether way i think Jones was a great fighter to watch growing up

[IMDAZED]

Tyson was 23 and Undefeated when he lost to douglas

Certain concepts are hard for people to grasp.

[Smash]

Tyson was 23 and Undefeated when he lost to douglas

Are you trying to say it wasnt a good win for collins? Douglas lost his next fight, eubank lost again to collins that same year, understanding a bit better now?

Certain concepts are hard for people to grasp.

LOL here you go again, refering to me indirectly, damn must be a mental thing

[Lead Cenobite]

Are you trying to say it wasnt a good win for collins? Douglas lost his next fight, eubank lost again to collins that same year, understanding a bit better now?



LOL here you go again, refering to me indirectly, damn must be a mental thing

LOL. Now I've seen it all. Rabid Collins fans.

Face it, your idol was a NEVER WAS.