Questions about Pac's (potential) decision making

[jrosales13]

valid point witht he Oscar comparison, and I just feel like with the Cotto fight to move up after that fight seems to be taking advantage of the negotiations.

That is true they did have an advantage in the negotiations. They were the Oscar De la Hoya in that fight they called the shots. But, at the same time I look at it like Pac is a small dude and he was fighting a guy that was looked like a legit threat. I think they didn't if the Oscar fight was more due to Pac being so great or that Oscar was just walking dead. So making the Cotto fight at 145 was a feel to see how they deal with somebody who is naturally bigger, naturally stonger. I think they liked what they saw. I think Pac feels strong and good at that weight. That they see him now as a true WW. I think if Pac fights again at WW it will be at 147. At least I hope so. But, I think they feel comfortable now. I think before the fight they had little doubts. If they have another WW fight and it is at a catchweight then I will start criticizing him as well.

[Easy-E]

how is he the weakest champ, coz you think so?......

because he beat the weakest champion. who is less impressive than Foreman?
Pac knows he is in no danger of getting hurt or stopped.

[Easy-E]

That is true they did have an advantage in the negotiations. They were the Oscar De la Hoya in that fight they called the shots. But, at the same time I look at it like Pac is a small dude and he was fighting a guy that was looked like a legit threat. I think they didn't if the Oscar fight was more due to Pac being so great or that Oscar was just walking dead. So making the Cotto fight at 145 was a feel to see how they deal with somebody who is naturally bigger, naturally stonger. I think they liked what they saw. I think Pac feels strong and good at that weight. That they see him now as a true WW. I think if Pac fights again at WW it will be at 147. At least I hope so. But, I think they feel comfortable now. I think before the fight they had little doubts. If they have another WW fight and it is at a catchweight then I will start criticizing him as well.

Right but my feelings about this are COMPLETLY based on the hypothetical situation of Manny moving to 154 and fighting foreman. Like i said if this doesnt happen than my opinions are recinded. To force cotto to fight at 145 and then move to 154 to fight Foreman?

[El Jesus]

how is he the weakest champ, coz you think so?......

because unless you are completely devoid of any brain cells, he is. Daniel Santos was the weakest and most inactive beltholder at that weight. You going to tell me that hes better than Martinez and Paul Williams? Take youre pac glasses off and realize that this dude is an aspiriing rabbi with no power.

[gqjohnb]

Why is Pac willing to fight Foreman at 154, when he wouldnt fight De La Hoya at 154?
Why is Pac willing to fight Foreman at 154, when he wouldnt even fight Cotto at 147?

It seems to me as though IF Pac fights Foreman at 154, it is ultimate cherry picking to obtain an 8th belt. It is incongrous to everything Pac and Pac fans say he stands for...fighting the best and taking all challengers...

Pac fans cannot be happy about this.


*This thread is completly hypothetical, as we do not officially know if this fight will happen or what weight it will happen at.

The question in bold is a good question but the other is ridiculous. If manny really can move up effectively to 154 I would be very disappointed in their camp for the catchweight **** they pulled with cotto. I think its ill advised for them to make this fight instead of fighting mayweather. Yuri has never been defeated although he does have a SD on his record. We don't really know what this guys full potential is. Especially if manny's moving up to 154 but its been said before. It would be much more credible for them to fight floyd really at any weight than to fight yuri to gain yet another belt through a catchweight bout or at the maximum of 154. I'm not exactly sure what they're trying to pull here.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

because he beat the weakest champion. who is less impressive than Foreman?
Pac knows he is in no danger of getting hurt or stopped.

c'mon now E...anytime a fighter moves up in weight, those risks become present

say what you want about the quality of Foreman's acumen, truth is, he is a beltholder in a division that PAC has no clue about

[El Jesus]

c'mon now E...anytime a fighter moves up in weight, those risks become present

say what you want about the quality of Foreman's acumen, truth is, he is a beltholder in a division that PAC has no clue about

pac has no buisness being there, period. it would be an instance of pac moving up and cherry picking a belt, something that floyd mayweather for years was torn apart for.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

pac has no buisness being there, period. it would be an instance of pac moving up and cherry picking a belt, something that floyd mayweather for years was torn apart for.

EJ, that's a middleweight that just handled a 170lb man in the ring a few weeks ago...cherrypicking or not, the risks and potential to get hurt is there

[jrosales13]

Right but my feelings about this are COMPLETLY based on the hypothetical situation of Manny moving to 154 and fighting foreman. Like i said if this doesnt happen than my opinions are recinded. To force cotto to fight at 145 and then move to 154 to fight Foreman?

I see what you are saying... But, I look at it from this point of view of that there confidence are pretty high now after Cotto that they feel they are a true legit WW now. When before they had some doubts. I think they had questions but those question were answered with Cotto. So they probably feel that they can probably risk it at 154.

The issue I have with picking Foreman is that you keeping it in house. Why not fight Spinks, Martinez, Dizinziruk, at 154. Arum just wants to keep everything in house have his top rank fighters fighting each other and that to me is getting annoying.

[jrosales13]

because unless you are completely devoid of any brain cells, he is. Daniel Santos was the weakest and most inactive beltholder at that weight. You going to tell me that hes better than Martinez and Paul Williams? Take youre pac glasses off and realize that this dude is an aspiriing rabbi with no power.

What has Cory Spinks done lately that makes you think he is better than Yuri Foreman?