Official Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – Butts, Cuts, Concussions, Repercussions

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

by David P. Greisman - Butting is more than skin deep.

When heads clash, the most visible wounds are the cuts – gashes that range in location, usually from below the eyebrow to above the hairline, and range in severity from slits that stop bleeding quickly to splits that pour crimson continuously.

The consequences that are most harmful are not always those that are most visible.

That was the case with Al Seeger, a 122-pound former world title challenger who was hospitalized with bleeding on the brain following his Oct. 23 loss to Victor Fonseca.

That was the case with Edgar Sosa, a now-former 108-pound beltholder who lost his world title and was sent to the hospital following his Nov. 21 loss to Rodel Mayol.

And that was the case with Nate Campbell, a former lightweight titlist who needed medical attention following his Aug. 1 “No contest” with Timothy Bradley.

The Seeger bout ended in the ninth round by technical knockout. The damage was done seven rounds before by a head butt. [Click Here To Read More]

[SlimTim]

I hope the writer of this article apologizes for, and quickly corrects his mistake of saying Andrade has only been on the canvas twice, both against Bute. He obviously forgot about the big left hook that put Andrade down in the first round against Yusaf Mack back in July 2007. Rutger that, or he's drinking HBO hype koolaid

[Motofan]

No mention of Hopkins, Holyfield or Ward in the headbutt article?

[snake]

Yep Hopkins and Holyfield would use their heads as a third fist.

The Super Six winner does not have to face Bute to prove anything. Bute was offered a slot in the Super Six but turned it down with no reason given (the reason is obvious: most Super Six's will come out with a loss due to the top level competition in the tournament). Those Six who manned up to be in the tournament despite fighting a string of the best of the best deserve recognition far and above anything Bute has done.

[tommy boo boxer]

No mention of Hopkins, Holyfield or Ward in the headbutt article?

no because they are the fairest sportsmen in boxing. lol

[Mr. David]

Re: Andrade and knockdowns -- it was an error of memory, and thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll have an editor change that as soon as possible, and I'll also run a correction in next week's column.

[Mr. David]

Moto,

The article was taking a look at the kinds of unseen injuries that take place from head butts, not at guys who use their head a lot as a third weapon such as Holyfield and Hopkins. It didn't quite fit the narrative.

Thanks!

[Clegg]

Despite his stint in the jungle, I still rate Bugner as the greatest Hungarian-British-Aussie boxer of all time.

Yep Hopkins and Holyfield would use their heads as a third fist.

The Super Six winner does not have to face Bute to prove anything. Bute was offered a slot in the Super Six but turned it down with no reason given (the reason is obvious: most Super Six's will come out with a loss due to the top level competition in the tournament). Those Six who manned up to be in the tournament despite fighting a string of the best of the best deserve recognition far and above anything Bute has done.

Actually it's been confirmed by Showtime that Bute was not offered a place.

[Lac'em up]

by David P. Greisman - Butting is more than skin deep.

When heads clash, the most visible wounds are the cuts – gashes that range in location, usually from below the eyebrow to above the hairline, and range in severity from slits that stop bleeding quickly to splits that pour crimson continuously.

The consequences that are most harmful are not always those that are most visible.

That was the case with Al Seeger, a 122-pound former world title challenger who was hospitalized with bleeding on the brain following his Oct. 23 loss to Victor Fonseca.

That was the case with Edgar Sosa, a now-former 108-pound beltholder who lost his world title and was sent to the hospital following his Nov. 21 loss to Rodel Mayol.

And that was the case with Nate Campbell, a former lightweight titlist who needed medical attention following his Aug. 1 “No contest” with Timothy Bradley.

The Seeger bout ended in the ninth round by technical knockout. The damage was done seven rounds before by a head butt. [Click Here To Read More]

Andre Ward showed us that he knows how to use his head as a third fist as well. I can't stand when fighters develop that bad habit.

[Perroskis]

I hope the writer of this article apologizes for, and quickly corrects his mistake of saying Andrade has only been on the canvas twice, both against Bute. He obviously forgot about the big left hook that put Andrade down in the first round against Yusaf Mack back in July 2007. Rutger that, or he's drinking HBO hype koolaid

he did say it its right there in the same paragraph where he says that the first bute knockdown should've been a slip gosh