Why was Marquez-Pacquiao II so close?

[civicvx]

his corner just ran out of water/towels/vaseline so he wanted to ask pac's corner if they have some spare.

No ****...I didn't think of that. Maybe you are right, that's why they had to use a cotton or cloth to stop Marquez cut from bleeding.

[AssasinKing]

weight drained is bull****..the first fight was a draw was he drained then??the fight was close because it was between 2 prime atg fighters...jmm is pacmans frazier..they can fight 100 times and imo it will always be close...jmm is tough and you aint gonna ko him and since pacman is a come foward aggresive fighter jmm counter punching style will always be effective

Ok freddy... haha

[Zarco]

something like this:
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hahaha, good idea but i will pass. that is soo corny. this reminds me of the other day a foreing friend invited me over for dinner, when i got there i asked "whats for dinner?" they said "puppies" i said "fuck that ill pass" some times you just have to pass on corny paints and corny/disgusting food.

[Still Pimpin]

klitschkos have a better resume.

I believe Mexicans and many other boxing fans don't give a **** about his record just like Pac with his lossess, it's about how he performs when it's time. JMM puts the War in warrior

[Still Pimpin]

hahaha, good idea but i will pass. that is soo corny. this reminds me of the other day a foreing friend invited me over for dinner, when i got there i asked "whats for dinner?" they said "puppies" i said "fuck that ill pass" some times you just have to pass on corny paints and corny/disgusting food.

I commend you for not falling for the racial baiting.

**** was uncalled for.....You can't be a Pac fan !!!

[Still Pimpin]

you know who is the most vested in pacquiao winning next to pac nuthuggers?

marquez fans.

the only time people talk about juan manuel marquez is when people are talking about manny pacquiao.



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[Titing Kabayo]

Both are big factors...

[BennyST]

Because based on your given poll choices you just want us to say that it's because of JMM's skills.

Why do you have to say he's weight drained, Pacquiao struggled a bit to make the weight but he is not weight drained.

And yes, JMM is a very skilled boxer... too bad he kinda always kiss the canvas.

He didn't struggle at all. He made weight first time on the scales. Being weight drained also makes you fight sluggish, lose stamina very quickly, punch weaker, slower etc etc. Pacquiao looked better that night than any other previously. Marquez fought very well too, so it was a close fight.

He fought as hard in the championship rounds as he did in the first few rounds. That is not what someone does when they're weight drained.

Anyway, he made weight fine, fought better than ever but fought someone who was as good as him and made him struggle but because he has gone on to beat Hatton and Cotto while Marquez got beat by Mayweather people suddenly think he had to be weight drained? Give me a break. If he was so weight drained the second time, why didn't he do any better the first time around, apart from the first round?

If they fought today at any weight Pac would win convincingly, not because he's gotten so much better but because Marquez has gotten worse. He's much older, slower, easier to hit and getting too small for the weight divisions he is fighting in. Pac is still at his peak and Marquez has now well and truly passed his.

Marquez would always give Pac problems exactly the same way every single time they fought. They are both 50/50 and this weight drained BS is exactly that. BS! He just fought someone who didn't walk in and use his face as his defense and who was faster than molasses dripping off a spoon.

[S A M U R A I]

Both. A little drained but a combination of both. Put it this way -- I would love to see a Pacquiao-Marquez fight at 140+.



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[BennyST]

well according to some people here, jmm beat pac twice, would beat him again at any weight, was robbed against chris john, defeated prime barrera, prime casamayor, KOd the hof'er juan diaz, and would have beat pbf had they fought at jmm's best weight... how's that for a resume?

Yes, and according to people like you Pac beat legendary champions like Ledwaba, Velasquez and undefeated monsters like Emmanuel Lucero and Jorge Solis, HOFers like David Diaz and 3K. Healthy, prime fighters like Oscar, Morales, Barrera II (as well as the best version of Barrera ever in their first fight who looked as sharp as a tack) and defensive geniuses who were also still in their prime like Hatton and Cotto who were looking better than ever, neither of whom had been brutally beaten and knocked out only a couple of fights before Pac.

Of course he also never got knocked out twice, beaten by an shot dude and would have destroyed Agapito Sanchez if they let the fight go on.