Is Freddie Roach a overrated trainer?

[AIR_KENG]

I think its the cut that made Pac abruptly change his game plan from body-shots first then go after the head to all-head and go for the kill....Couldn't blame him since the fight could have been stopped at any point in time since the cut

i agree, the fight was a different story after round 5... after the cut...

[cmason]

don't blame manny's shortcomings on roach, he just got beat by the better fighter, live with it. freddie roach is one of the best trainers in the game and to say he'd be nothing without pac is not only wrong, but ******. ask anyone at the wild card if roach is over-rated and i know what answer you'll get.

[SnoopySmurf]

Because Pac went up against the top three featherweights in the world, got a 1-1-1 record, Roach is over rated? Most fighters in the world would be 0-3 against these guys.

[TyrantT316]

Because Pac went up against the top three featherweights in the world, got a 1-1-1 record, Roach is over rated? Most fighters in the world would be 0-3 against these guys.

exactly...

plus Manny DOES have his limitatings and fought a complete, great, iron chinned, HOF, legend in Morales...

I agree that the trainer plays a major role on fight night and during camp, but if his fighter cannot adjust...then that is on the fighter...Roach could have trained Manny to be more well rounded, but that doesn't mean you can take a multi year professional and make him a completely new fighter in ONE fight...