Why doesn't size matter in HW division?

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  • OaktownGhost
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    #1

    Why doesn't size matter in HW division?

    I've always wondered this. Enlightened me
  • JohnCIV6
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    It plays somewhat of a roll I believe..

    History shows though, that the lighter more athletic guys seem to do better. Now that is not always the case, but history gives it a good backup.. Guys around 215-230 is what I'm talking about.

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      #3
      Originally posted by JohnCIV6
      It plays somewhat of a roll I believe..

      History shows though, that the lighter more athletic guys seem to do better. Now that is not always the case, but history gives it a good backup.. Guys around 215-230 is what I'm talking about.
      So why do people make a big deal out of it in the lower weights? Like people saying that Floyd is bigger then manny because he is 2inches taller. Wtf? Why size a huge emphasis in the lower weight classes, but not in the heavyweight division.

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        #4
        Originally posted by BoxingOakland
        So why do people make a big deal out of it in the lower weights? Like people saying that Floyd is bigger then manny because he is 2inches taller. Wtf? Why size a huge emphasis in the lower weight classes, but not in the heavyweight division.
        Well, i look at it this way..

        When your heavier, you naturally have a bigger frame to fill/lose weight.. therfore you can jump up and down more to match your opponent.

        When your in a lower weight class your frame is smaller, and it's harder to jump up and down in weight.

        That's why you see the weights spread out more as you go up in classification.. It just seems to be a bigger deal the smaller you are.

        All I can really do is explain how I see it.

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        • ShatteredGlass
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          #5
          It does matter.

          The K bros have huge Physical advantages over their opposition. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE

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          • The Hammer
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            #6
            Usually the biggest heavyweights have not been very athletic.

            Julius Long, Primo Carnera, Tye Fields, Alexander Ustinov, Michael Grant, Goofi Whitaker, etc.

            The only really big heavyweights who are also athletic are the Klitschkos and Lennox Lewis.

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            • JohnCIV6
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              #7
              I think the size differences is also part of the reason the HW division is usually a fan favorite.

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              • OaktownGhost
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                #8
                Originally posted by SirAuron
                It does matter.

                The K bros have huge Physical advantages over their opposition. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
                Yeah but why isn't there a huge emphasis on weight and size like in the lower divisions. I know it makes a difference; but why double standards?

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                • ИATAS
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                  #9
                  It's a very good point! I've always maintained on this website that people put waaaay to much emphasis on size and while it can be a big factor, it's not always that important (as shown time and time again with pacquiao).

                  One thing to point out though is that heavyweights, no matter the size, are used to fighting other heavyweights, meaning they're used to getting hit hard and dealing with naturally big guys.

                  Smaller guys moving up in weight some times are in over their heads when they first feel the difference in power, because they're used to fighting guys their own size or even smaller. That's why I think guys like Pacquiao, who constantly spar with bigger & stronger guys makes a HUGE difference. It's all about training and sparring imo. Pacquiao didn't get hurt by Cotto because he was sparring with guys that actually hit harder then cotto.

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                  • Ryn0
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    It's a very good point! I've always maintained on this website that people put waaaay to much emphasis on size and while it can be a big factor, it's not always that important (as shown time and time again with pacquiao).

                    One thing to point out though is that heavyweights, no matter the size, are used to fighting other heavyweights, meaning they're used to getting hit hard and dealing with naturally big guys.

                    Smaller guys moving up in weight some times are in over their heads when they first feel the difference in power, because they're used to fighting guys their own size or even smaller. That's why I think guys like Pacquiao, who constantly spar with bigger & stronger guys makes a HUGE difference. It's all about training and sparring imo. Pacquiao didn't get hurt by Cotto because he was sparring with guys that actually hit harder then cotto.
                    ^^^^ This

                    And I also believe anyone over 200+ has the power to KO any other fighter if they get lucky.

                    Essentially everyone has a punchers chance, which IMO is one of the reasons HW boxing has traditionally been so popular.

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