De La Hoya was the measuring stick for which greatness was determined

[dans]

If you take a look at Oscar's career, and his opponents, it's easy to see Oscar was the measuring stick for greatness throughout his career.

Take a look at Oscar's career:

Wins
Ruelas (Good, not great)
Genaro Hernandez (Good, not great)
Julion Cesar Chavez (Great, but he was only "good" when DLH fought him)
Whitaker (Great, but he was only "good" when DLH fought him)
Camacho (Great, but he was only "good" when DLH fought him)
Quartey (Good, but not great)
Oba Carr (Good, not great)
Gatti (Good, not great)
Castillejo (Good, not great)
Vargas (Good, not great)
Sturm (Good, not great, controversial)
Mayorga (Good, not great)

Losses
Trinidad (Great, but since it was controversial, it could've been Oscar's only GREAT win)
Mosley (Great)
Hopkins (Great)
Mayweather (Great)
Pacquiao (Great)

The Sturm and Trinidad fights are really the only exceptions. Sturm most people believe beat Oscar, including me. Trinidad, many thought Oscar did enough to win. If those two decisions were reversed, Oscar would have 1 win against a great, and only 1 loss against a "good" fighter.

But amazingly enough, even the controversial decisions prove the point that Oscar was the measuring stick for boxing throughout his career. If you were great, you beat Oscar, if you were just good, you didn't.

Pretty incredible how his career played out.

[hookoutofhell]

i think two fighters whos wins over DLH are slightly deceptive are tito and b-hop. b-hop has better wins further down the ine but his win over DLH was a bout that he should have won simply because he was a much bigger fighter.

tito imo lost the fight to DLH, i think if you score that fight round by round then DLH emerges as a clear winner, however he could have sealed the deal but imo he threw away the fight.

i think the guys who beat DLH and deserve major credit are pbf and sugar shane. shane defeated a prime DLH, a fighter who if he was around today would probably clean up the WW and LMW division. pbf a tthe time was still a natural LWW, was fighting 2 weight divisions above his natural weight class, against DLh who at the time was a top 10 p4p and he was fighting on DLH's terms - you have to give lil' floyd major props.

[Pullcounter]

dlh's resume is impressive, but he didn't win the ones that mattered.

[P.WILL]

Oscar won the Trinidad and Mosley II fight, the first mosley fight was pretty close as well although i scored it for mosley

[dans]

Oscar won the Trinidad and Mosley II fight, the first mosley fight was pretty close as well although i scored it for mosley

Right, like I said, some wins/losses were debatable. But somehow now that his careers over, you can look and see that the way it played out, the greats beat him, the "goods" did not.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

**** de la hoya...im glad that he got retired in that fashion

[Royal]

He beat Trinidad and Mosley (in the second fight). The other losses are legit.

[jrosales13]

He lost both fights with Mosley. And, I had Tito beating him as well.

[3doorsdown]

If you really think about it, Besides B Hop and Pacman, all of De La Hoya's losses could have possibly gone his way as well. Both Mosley fights I can see people say he won, Trinidad well that one is a given, and the Mayweather bout I thought Mayweather won it pretty clearly, but some people do seem to feel De La Hoya won that fight.

Basically I'm just trying to say, does this mean De La Hoya is great? or just really good?

[Olympia77]

I thought ODH easily beat Mosley in their rematch.
Its simple, he lost the first fight because he used the wrong tactics. He tried to fight Mosley instead of outbox him like he did in their return match.

ODH was a great fighter, it wouldnt of been so bad had he lost to Sturm because Oscar had no business going to the middleweight division anyway.
But the robberies against Tito and Mosley affected his legacy, he should of got those wins