Wladimir Klitschko Kicks David Haye To The Curb

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  • Allucard
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    #71
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    I really want to see the fight and watch Wlad decapitate this loudmouth in devastating fashion, but because of Haye's unethical business practices pulling out short notice, I understand if Wlad is hesitant to do business with him again.
    If Haye can get some more wins against notable HWs the demand will be there and it wouldn't make $ense for Wlad to not fight him.......he certainly is not afraid of an unproven challenger with a big mouth and a paper title. Wlad is a defensive boxing master with great power who has honed his craft to near perfection.....he is easily in the current top 5 as far as technicians in the ring today.
    Wlad? lol Vitali is much better than Wlad will ever be. When Wlad is attacked he panics and the "defensive boxing master"'s defense goes out the window.

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    • Chunk..
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      #72
      Wlad will fight Haye eventually. Too much money in it for him to turn his back on.

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      • apollocreed
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        #73
        Originally posted by edgarg
        Klitschko 2009 has a lot more sense than you credit him with, in fact if YOU had more sense you might be able to understand and assimilate what he wrote.

        Regardless of your feeling towards him, you cannot deny the facts that he has presented.

        As fot the 3 losses you so gleefully dribble about, not one was a KO and there were very good reasons {nothing to do with any perceived weakness of Klitschko} for those losses, and I'd venture to say that if there had been return fights within, say, 6 months, they would have all ended the same way, KO or TKO by Klitschko.

        I don't believe that there has been such dominance by Heavyweight Champions, for at least 75 years or more, mayne Never since John L. Sullivan. Nobody has any sort of chance to beat a Klitschko or indeed win more than a round or two.

        This is highly unusual in boxing;no matter how good the champ usually is, there'll always be someone who'll give him a "good run for his money".

        But not with the Klitschkos........
        You are clearly another obsessive Klitscho fan so I'm not gonna waste too mush time trying to shout you down, but I will address a couple of your points. Like I said to the other Klitscho nut hugger, I'm not an obsessive Haye fan, and I don't have anything personal against the Klitschko's. However, as a passionate boxing fan, I find Vladimir boring to watch, and also listen to, and definately do not see him as a worthy lineal champ.

        Firstly: "As fot the 3 losses you so gleefully dribble about, not one was a KO and there were very good reasons {nothing to do with any perceived weakness of Klitschko}"

        WTF??? 'NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY PERCIEVED WEAKNESS OF KLITSCHKO'????? When did being brutally KO'd because of having very poor punch reistance for his size become not a percieved weakness???

        Secondly: "Regardless of your feeling towards him, you cannot deny the facts that he has presented"

        What facts? I take it you mean Vlads padded record. For the last 10 years, The HW division has been been very shallow in terms of quality, and the majority of his wins are aginst average fighters and bums. Like I said, I'm not completey biased against the guy, I admit he has excellent power and a great KO ratio, but that is one of the things that makes him so frustrating for neutral fans - he should use it more often instead of spending most of his fights floundering about like a big girl and pawing out his jab while trying to protect his glass jaw. The guy is boring, he's a uninspiring HW champ, and his reign has co-incided with the worst ever era for HW's. I'm actually glad Vitali came back because he is a much better fighter. Vlad, however, is far too fragile, definately not fearless enough, and also totally devoid of any charisma, inside or outside the ring. Haye has the power to expose him again, and if he does, I personally think it would be a good thing for the HW division.

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        • Xcusemymood
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          #74
          Originally posted by QUELOQUE
          Vitali could quite possibly become a unanimous top 20 ATG with this run off his 4 year hiatus.

          I see Haye and Tua or another high level contender getting dominated next year.
          Theres no fighters at heavyweight for him to beat that would give him that much credit.

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          • Xcusemymood
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            #75
            Originally posted by SirAuron
            By the way, if Vitali ends up fighting Haye instead of Wlad, then I am convinced Wlad is ducking Haye.

            The reason is because look at Vitali's last 3 fights, two of them have been against Punchers (Areolla, Peter) Look at Wlads fights (Chagaev, now Chambers)

            It seems to me like the punchers, who can hit Wlad on the chin, get given to Iron Jaw, and better boxers, who have a slight chance of outboking big V get given to the better boxer in Wlad.

            They are carefully micromanaging their fights so that they always put the guy with the style advantage in against the opponent.
            Chagaev is supposed to be pretty heavy handed, even if he is not too big. Also he was the #2 HW rated when they fought.

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            • $partacus
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              #76
              This thread has got the putrid smell of the Klitonians cum filled rectums.

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              • The_Visitation
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                #77
                Originally posted by Chunk
                Wlad will fight Haye eventually. Too much money in it for him to turn his back on.
                Yup. The difference this time is that Haye will get his hands on a fair chunk of it as well. Life's a *****, Wlad.

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                • EuropeFightFan
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                  #78
                  Wladimir has both Povetkin and Chambers as mandatories for next year as it is, he's going to be busy enough without Haye. Haye had an opportunity earlier this year against Wladimir and it never happened...be it the supposed injury, the Setanta collapse or whatever else...at the end of the day it was Haye's camp that backed out of the fight and Wladimir was rightfully angry with him for doing so, especially after all his pre-fight talk. The 60-odd thousand seater Veltins arena had it's seats sold for the fight, Haye's own fans went out of their way and took time to make travel plans in tough economic times for the fight and boxing fans around the world were really looking forward to the fight for months...just for Haye to simply walk away. Haye wasted not just Wlad's time, but wasted time for a lot of people...especially the long suffering boxing fans who have had to get used to seeing the most prominent boxers avoid each other like the plague along with the fact that there is up to four or more "world champions" per division. It seems to me that Haye winning and retaining the WBA belt creates more problems than it resolves in the heavyweight division as he will be able to bizarrely box a path around the Klitschko brothers like they simply don't exist despite their complete dominance of the division and won't have to worry about the WBA forcing a fight as a mandatory and they'll put up many obsticles to prevent a Haye-Klitschko showdown.

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                  • norway
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                    #79
                    Klitsckos will never meet Haye. Haye will get his aasss knocked out long time before. Haye is a bum and we all know it. Sure some would like him to be more but fantasy and dreaming is the only answer to Haye !!!

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                    • ChopperRead
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                      #80
                      Ruiz will likely KO Haye and that will be the end of all this talk. Ruiz has changed his style, has a new team, and is going for the KO these days. If Ruiz is so easy to beat, why does he win so often? As for Wlad and Vitali, they owe Haye zero after he ****ed them around the way he did. I still have Valuev winning the Haye fight on points, so we'll see what happens if Haye makes it to the mandated Valuev rematch.
                      Last edited by ChopperRead; 12-01-2009, 03:45 PM.

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