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It's up to Wlad, but Haye is now promoted by GBP, and will be earning millions off fighting crap opponents, its all about the $$$ and Wlad is turning down Millions on some ****** principles, If he hates haye that much and thinks he is an easy fight, why not just pumell him for a few millions?
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Haye ran like a scared coward for 12 rounds from Valuev. He was clearly afraid of getting his glass chin checked by Valuev. The china chinned bum Maccarinelli hurt Haye with a left hook in the 1st round of their fight.
Wlad - 56 pro fights
Haye - 24 pro fights
If Haye had 56 pro fights at HW he would be knocked down 48 times and have 11 KO losses on his record.
Like I said before, Wlad has improved and hasn't been down of hurt in over 4 years. Most of those kd's from the past were flash knockdowns. Wlad has never been KO'd, only TKO'd. He has never been counted out, he always has the heart to get up and continue fighting.
Wlad has only been knocked down by big strong hard hitting heavyweights.
Haye has been knocked down and badly hurt by super middleweights and small cruiserweights.
"safe opponents"
are you ****ing kidding me?
Wlad's resume is 1,000,000,000 times better than Haye's
- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING MAGAZINE Heavyweight champion of the world.
- 47 KO's in 53 wins
- 14 dominant title defences
- has defeated 7 former world heavyweight champions (Chris Byrd twice, Samuel Peter, Lamon Brewster, Sultan Ibragimov, Ray Mercer, Hasim Rahman, Ruslan Chagaev)
- has defeated tons of top contenders (Calvin Brock, Jameel McCline, Tony Thompson, Monte Barrett, Ray Austin, Axel Schulz, DaVarryl Williamson, Francois Botha, Charles Shufford, David Bostice, Derrick Jefferson, etc)Last edited by Klitschko2011; 11-25-2009, 08:56 PM.Comment
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hahahaha.........i'm not gonna get drawn into a debate with you - your posting name and avatar indicate you are slightly biased towards vladimir??people like u are actually the reason why i try not to post on boxingscene unless i feel compelled to - you are clearly a ****ing idiot.^^^^^
Another ******ed Klitschko hater.
Wlad hasn't been knocked down or hurt in over 4 years.
The glass chinned Haye gets knocked down and badly hurt in all of his fights.
Anyone with any boxing knowledge knows that when Wlad hits Haye on the chin, he's getting knocked out. Haye has the weakest chin in the heavyweight division, he has been dropped and badly hurt by super middleweights and small cruiserweights. He was destroyed in 5 rounds by an ancient shot Thompson. Solis KO'd Haye in 3. Super middleweight bum Lolenga Mock got robbed of a 2nd round TKO win over Haye. The other day I watched a youtube video of Haye getting 1 punch KO'd in the 1st round by some unknown bum in the amatuers.
Valuev/Haye was one of the worst HW fights of all time. Haye was scared ****less, he ran like a scared coward for 12 rounds and only threw a pathetic 3 punches per round. Valuev got robbed. Even the biased british commentators had Valuev winning the fight. 80 year old shot Holyfield did better against Valuev than Haye did.
Haye is glass chinned garbage, he's the weakest HW title holder of all time.
Anybody with at least 2 brain cells knows that either Klitschko easily KO's Haye.
Haye did what he had to against Valuev to get the belt. the size advantage Valuev had was ridiculous and i didn't see either of the Klitschko's jumping at the chance to fight him. When Haye fights next it will be a different story, guaranteed.
I admit Hayes chin isn't exactly granite, but you are still talking ****.
Thompson did not 'destroy' him - have you actually seen the fight?? Haye was giving him a beating for the first 3, then punched himself out due to his inexperience. Carl Thompson was known for having an iron jaw, I don't think Vlad would still be standing after that. The fight was stopped when Haye was still standing and his trainer threw the towel in, he was more exhausted than anything.
Mock and Mormeck both had him down but he got up both times to KO them.
The amateur fight with Solis was stopped on the outclassed rule, not because he was KO'd.
As for him being 'one punch KO'd' in the amateurs - wtf are u talking about? who was the opponent? that never happened.
p.s. i just went on youtube and watched your mighty hero get SMOKED, and I mean SMOKED, by Sanders, Puritty and Brewster. please watch them, they are genuinely hilarious.
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hahahaha.........i'm not gonna get drawn into a debate with you - your posting name and avatar indicate you are slightly biased towards vladimir??people like u are actually the reason why i try not to post on boxingscene unless i feel compelled to - you are clearly a ****ing idiot.
Haye did what he had to against Valuev to get the belt. the size advantage Valuev had was ridiculous and i didn't see either of the Klitschko's jumping at the chance to fight him. When Haye fights next it will be a different story, guaranteed.
I admit Hayes chin isn't exactly granite, but you are still talking ****.
Thompson did not 'destroy' him - have you actually seen the fight?? Haye was giving him a beating for the first 3, then punched himself out due to his inexperience. Carl Thompson was known for having an iron jaw, I don't think Vlad would still be standing after that. The fight was stopped when Haye was still standing and his trainer threw the towel in, he was more exhausted than anything.
Mock and Mormeck both had him down but he got up both times to KO them.
The amateur fight with Solis was stopped on the outclassed rule, not because he was KO'd.
As for him being 'one punch KO'd' in the amateurs - wtf are u talking about? who was the opponent? that never happened.
p.s. i just went on youtube and watched your mighty hero get SMOKED, and I mean SMOKED, by Sanders, Puritty and Brewster. please watch them, they are genuinely hilarious.
Thompson had 5 ko losses.Comment
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He's not duckin they'll fight u'll see. Haye won't want to fight Vitali till he is in his 40s and Wlad will be one of the fights at WH, they will have at least 2 fights against each other both will make mills and wlad will probz retire afterwards. This fight is so open, both have weak chins, are big punchers, quick, wlad goes backwards, haye hopefully will go forwards it'll be an awesome fight.Comment
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ok smartarse haha, but thats not really relevant to my argument anyway. are you saying Haye doesn't hit that hard?? because he clearly does. Thompson WAS known as being a very durable and tough opponent with a massive will,
and withstood a brutal onslaught from Haye when a lot of fighters would have folded. Thompson was a former world champion and it was only Haye's 10th pro fight! At the time it was seen as a very risky fight by the british press cos of Hayes inexperience.Comment
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what a surprise!Comment
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OK i've never seen that before, but so what?? like I said I never said Haye had a granite chin, even though that was when he was a teenage amateur?? The fact still remains that your mighty Dr. Glassjaw is a boring, safety first heavyweight champ that is scared of getting hit because he has already been brutally KO'd (like i said watch the video's - these are not when he was a young amateur either) 3 times, and knows Haye has the power and speed to do exactly the same thing if not worse.
And just for the record, I find it absolutely hilarious that a Vlad fan has the gaul to say the Haye - Valuev fight was boring - did you actually see the Vlad - Ibragimov fight????? Literally the worst heavyweight fight I have ever seen!! Your boy stunk out MSG when everyone had been looking forward to the first unification fight in 10 years!! Nuff saidComment
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