mayweather..overrated, a fraud, a ducker, etc

[sycomantz]

Those "old mexicans" were better than anyone Mayweather ever fought. Pacman only fought 1 fight at 135, then moved all the way up to 147. You don't see Floyd's punk ass doing anything like that. Granted Floyd is a great fighter but I'm skeptical because he has never fought any real competition. I guess you think Freddie Roach is the be all end all of boxing? I tend to stick with the facts.

yeah, facts that, majority of pacs fights against MAb and EM was when they were prime.

lets stick with the facts. Roach is such a good analyst of breaking down tapes but he couldnt figure JMM out

FLoyd is going to make pac look worse than JMM did

[Rampage1978]

Can anyone name at least 1 GREAT WW the Floyd has fought? And please don't say De La Hoya because he was mediocre at best at that point in his career. Manny has only fought 1 great at WW (Cotto) who Floyd was to afraid to fight. And Manny destroyed him. Floyd has never fought an elite fighter at WW. If anyone can name one I would love to hear it.

[jimmykaba]

this is the 999th "[insertname here] is overrated" thread

[El Jesus]

I wish Floyd did comebacks like Sugar Ray Leonard did.

as much as people complain about floyd, i swear, leonard was MUCH worse. could you imagine if mayweather, after pac has a huge win, walks into the center of the ring, and retires right in front of his face?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

With mayweather having supposedly ducked competition his whole career, handpicked his entire resume, runs in the ring, isnt exciting and etc.

Can i ask. And this is a serious question.

since the status quo has decided that mayweather is all of the things said above, what does pac have to gain in beating him? With the way floyd gets discussed on here, i would swear hes on the same level as a chavez jr. Seriously, surely if mayweather is all of the things you guys call him on a daily basis, then what does it say about people like shane and pac who want to fight him?

Im making this thread because at some point, careers have to looked at in retrospect, i think what happens is that people who know very little initially sign up to the board, read alot of messages, claim they "loved him at 130" and then decide to tear him a new one on a daily basis.

I see alot of rewriting of history on here alot, but since were basically locked in a two fighter discussion, i want to know seriously from the pac fans, that since mayweather is so overrated, then a pac win would mean very little?

We all know at this point, pac is an outstanding fighter, with a very good quality resume and hes been on a roll post marquez II. But when mayweathers name comes up, like i said, you would swear he was an overrated journeyman.

The last, id say 3 years havent been very kind to mayweather, and for me, it has alot to do with his style of fighting and his additude of course. I think fighters who have an exciting style and a humble additude usually get a pass on who they fight, but mayweather putting his foot in his mouth, and his safety first mentality creates a certain vibe about him that makes it easy to put out nothing but vitriol on here.

Right now this board reminds me alot of political forums i have argued on for years, you have partisian sides holding their ground on positions with everyone just waiting for their turn to talk instead of listening and learning. I feel at this point ive become a middle of the road moderate, i understand certain fighters are not perfect, but the constant trashing of the guy that is supposed to put pac over the top, i dont get it. You all hated it when mayweather trashed his opponents before a fight, then use what he said in promotion as if it was anything more than promoting a fight.

If you yourself stand by the idea that mayweather is an overrated fraud, then how in the *** could he possibly be participating in arguably the greatest fight this sport might see? in order for that to happen, you need two ATG in their prime, SO surely, you can adhere to that? Becuase if not, you arent any better than mayweather himself.

as one of the best Afraid Mayweather jr. haters in this board,

we are or I am not denying his great talent or resume...


What im denying & criticizing is his fans & himself's CLAIM AS shamefully exaggerated G.O.A.T greatness & resume. Big difference.

You cant talk all the smack he & his fanbase talk when his greatest victory is Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Ricky Hatton, & a old oscar.

You just cant do that & not expect a lot of criticism.


Impossible.

[Kevin Jesus]

Good post. I would have green k you but i have to spread some around before giving it to El Jesus again.

I said this same exact thing in a shorter way, couple days ago.

[Deja_Vous]

Those "old mexicans" were better than anyone Mayweather ever fought. Pacman only fought 1 fight at 135, then moved all the way up to 147. You don't see Floyd's punk ass doing anything like that. Granted Floyd is a great fighter but I'm skeptical because he has never fought any real competition. I guess you think Freddie Roach is the be all end all of boxing? I tend to stick with the facts.

Fanny Pac needs a handicap...Floyd doesn't.

Mayweather doesn't care what his opponets weigh..

Fanny doesn't have the skills not to care.

[Xeraser]

Fanny Pac needs a handicap...Floyd doesn't.

Mayweather doesn't care what his opponets weigh..

Fanny doesn't have the skills not to care.

oh yeah Floyd is skilled enough to beat Margarito. Also he got the skills to put a whooping on Cotto and could have mop the floor with Mosley. Am I missing something here. Floyd with all his skills, how the heck a flawed fighter with lesser skills like Pac accomplished more and have better legacy?