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    With mayweather having supposedly ducked competition his whole career, handpicked his entire resume, runs in the ring, isnt exciting and etc.

    Can i ask. And this is a serious question.

    since the status quo has decided that mayweather is all of the things said above, what does pac have to gain in beating him? With the way floyd gets discussed on here, i would swear hes on the same level as a chavez jr. Seriously, surely if mayweather is all of the things you guys call him on a daily basis, then what does it say about people like shane and pac who want to fight him?

    Im making this thread because at some point, careers have to looked at in retrospect, i think what happens is that people who know very little initially sign up to the board, read alot of messages, claim they "loved him at 130" and then decide to tear him a new one on a daily basis.

    I see alot of rewriting of history on here alot, but since were basically locked in a two fighter discussion, i want to know seriously from the pac fans, that since mayweather is so overrated, then a pac win would mean very little?

    We all know at this point, pac is an outstanding fighter, with a very good quality resume and hes been on a roll post marquez II. But when mayweathers name comes up, like i said, you would swear he was an overrated journeyman.

    The last, id say 3 years havent been very kind to mayweather, and for me, it has alot to do with his style of fighting and his additude of course. I think fighters who have an exciting style and a humble additude usually get a pass on who they fight, but mayweather putting his foot in his mouth, and his safety first mentality creates a certain vibe about him that makes it easy to put out nothing but vitriol on here.

    Right now this board reminds me alot of political forums i have argued on for years, you have partisian sides holding their ground on positions with everyone just waiting for their turn to talk instead of listening and learning. I feel at this point ive become a middle of the road moderate, i understand certain fighters are not perfect, but the constant trashing of the guy that is supposed to put pac over the top, i dont get it. You all hated it when mayweather trashed his opponents before a fight, then use what he said in promotion as if it was anything more than promoting a fight.

    If you yourself stand by the idea that mayweather is an overrated fraud, then how in the *** could he possibly be participating in arguably the greatest fight this sport might see? in order for that to happen, you need two ATG in their prime, SO surely, you can adhere to that? Becuase if not, you arent any better than mayweather himself.

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    Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
    With mayweather having supposedly ducked competition his whole career, handpicked his entire resume, runs in the ring, isnt exciting and etc.

    Can i ask. And this is a serious question.

    since the status quo has decided that mayweather is all of the things said above, what does pac have to gain in beating him? With the way floyd gets discussed on here, i would swear hes on the same level as a chavez jr. Seriously, surely if mayweather is all of the things you guys call him on a daily basis, then what does it say about people like shane and pac who want to fight him?

    Im making this thread because at some point, careers have to looked at in retrospect, i think what happens is that people who know very little initially sign up to the board, read alot of messages, claim they "loved him at 130" and then decide to tear him a new one on a daily basis.

    I see alot of rewriting of history on here alot, but since were basically locked in a two fighter discussion, i want to know seriously from the pac fans, that since mayweather is so overrated, then a pac win would mean very little?

    We all know at this point, pac is an outstanding fighter, with a very good quality resume and hes been on a roll post marquez II. But when mayweathers name comes up, like i said, you would swear he was an overrated journeyman.

    The last, id say 3 years havent been very kind to mayweather, and for me, it has alot to do with his style of fighting and his additude of course. I think fighters who have an exciting style and a humble additude usually get a pass on who they fight, but mayweather putting his foot in his mouth, and his safety first mentality creates a certain vibe about him that makes it easy to put out nothing but vitriol on here.

    Right now this board reminds me alot of political forums i have argued on for years, you have partisian sides holding their ground on positions with everyone just waiting for their turn to talk instead of listening and learning. I feel at this point ive become a middle of the road moderate, i understand certain fighters are not perfect, but the constant trashing of the guy that is supposed to put pac over the top, i dont get it. You all hated it when mayweather trashed his opponents before a fight, then use what he said in promotion as if it was anything more than promoting a fight.

    If you yourself stand by the idea that mayweather is an overrated fraud, then how in the *** could he possibly be participating in arguably the greatest fight this sport might see? in order for that to happen, you need two ATG in their prime, SO surely, you can adhere to that? Becuase if not, you arent any better than mayweather himself.
    he's proven. Not really a whole lot at WW, but in the lower weights definitely.

    He fought Oscar at 154, he did ok, not a superb performance, but it's enough to say he could **** at 147. He's just not really that proven at WW for being there so long.

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    • #3
      he didn't duck everyone.

      doesn't mean he didn't duck anyone.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
        he didn't duck everyone.

        doesn't mean he didn't duck anyone.
        At welterweight, i think he came in thinking that after judah, he would be all good and be able to move onto megafights, but when judah lost, i think his reputation has taken a hit ever since. i think he thought that fighting de la hoya would likely be enough to seal his reputation but the way he fought him didint really win anyone over. not to mention his glory from the ricky hatton knockout was short lived when he took a break and didint fight miguel cotto.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by them_apples View Post
          he's proven. Not really a whole lot at WW, but in the lower weights definitely.

          He fought Oscar at 154, he did ok, not a superb performance, but it's enough to say he could **** at 147. He's just not really that proven at WW for being there so long.
          what hurt him was the break in retrospect. but i think he likely needed it. having done boxing his whole life with likely little to no breaks, he probably needed it to stay fresh. he took alot of heat for it, but he came back at the right time against the right oppoenents to challange him (with upcoming fights with pac and potentially mosley later in 2010 win or lose)

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          • #6
            MAYWEATHER is coward and a clown.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
              At welterweight, i think he came in thinking that after judah, he would be all good and be able to move onto megafights, but when judah lost, i think his reputation has taken a hit ever since. i think he thought that fighting de la hoya would likely be enough to seal his reputation but the way he fought him didint really win anyone over. not to mention his glory from the ricky hatton knockout was short lived when he took a break and didint fight miguel cotto.
              ehhh...... it's not just 140-147.

              he should have fought casa and freitas at 130 but he fought corrales so i give him a pass.

              he should have fought spada too but i don't say much since he fought castillo.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                ehhh...... it's not just 140-147.

                he should have fought casa and freitas at 130 but he fought corrales so i give him a pass.

                he should have fought spada too but i don't say much since he fought castillo.
                I give him a pass on casa and freitas because those guys were coming on at a point where mayweather wouldnt have proven much by beating them, both of those guys reached their apex really when floyd left the division and like you said, Corralles having been the guy to beat both of them in my opinion cancels them out.

                But come on man, spadafora? mayweather would get no love at all for fighting that dude, to me, thats no different than when he beat angel manfredy, and even manfredy was more credible than paul "i shot my wife" spadafora

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                • #9
                  20-30 years from now Mayweather will just be remember as another good boxer.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DikanRadeljak View Post
                    MAYWEATHER is coward and a clown.
                    I agree.

                    A very skilled fighter but very overprotective of his record

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