What of Pavlik now?

[John Hue]

Hopefully Pavlik will bounce back soon, maybe the loss to Hopkins as well as personal problems has derailed his career. His still has time to get back on track.

What are his personal problems?

He has not been right in the head since the Hopkins loss. When that fight was made I had a bad feeling the fight was all wrong for him.

[RockyB]

indeed the biggest disappointment!

[Adamantium]

What are his personal problems?

He has not been right in the head since the Hopkins loss. When that fight was made I had a bad feeling the fight was all wrong for him.

Im just guessing thats all, maybe his had outside stuff to deal with.
As for the Hopkins loss, it must be hard for a undefeated fighter to loss his first fight. I think he turned down the pwill fight to fight Hopkins.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Im just guessing thats all, maybe his had outside stuff to deal with.
As for the Hopkins loss, it must be hard for a undefeated fighter to loss his first fight. I think he turned down the pwill fight to fight Hopkins.

I think he needs to get different people around him. I think Hopkins not only beat him up but he demoralized him in the ring in front of millions. Took his heart out his chest and showed it too him....Lefty

[TheUptownKid]

kelly seems to me to have prom queen syndrome. He is always in youngstown he is the king of youngstown a larger than life figure. He probably feels untouchable day to day just walking around town, but at night he has to look in the mirror. He knows graduation is around the corner and college aint the same as his ohio cakewalk. Being elite comes at a price which he knows his ass can not always pay. Hopkins was the real world calling the question is does he have the balls to answer his next call?

[Adamantium]

I think he needs to get different people around him. I think Hopkins not only beat him up but he demoralized him in the ring in front of millions. Took his heart out his chest and showed it too him....Lefty

I think his outgrown Jack Leow, Kelly is 1D after all. maybe Roach or even Rooney could shake things up a bit.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

I think his outgrown Jack Leow, Kelly is 1D after all. maybe Roach or even Rooney could shake things up a bit.

I don't know if anyone can give you your will to fight back. He needs to get back in there this year often. he is fighting in December, he should try to fight another 3 times in 2010 plan something for late Feb or early March then late july early August and finish off with another fight in December or January of next year...he needs to keep busy and fight at least one or two big names in the next 4 fights....Lefty

[Adamantium]

I don't know if anyone can give you your will to fight back. He needs to get back in there this year often. he is fighting in December, he should try to fight another 3 times in 2010 plan something for late Feb or early March then late july early August and finish off with another fight in December or January of next year...he needs to keep busy and fight at least one or two big names in the next 4 fights....Lefty

Some fighters are never the same after thier first loss, look at Tyson on the other hand Ali was always able to bounce back. Only time will tell which kind of fighter Kelly is, hopefully more like Ali than Tyson.

[John Hue]

Hopefully Pavlik will bounce back soon, maybe the loss to Hopkins as well as personal problems has derailed his career. His still has time to get back on track.

I think his outgrown Jack Leow, Kelly is 1D after all. maybe Roach or even Rooney could shake things up a bit.

I agree with you and also TheUptownKid. Kelly and his Youngstown local working class hero thing has painted himself into a corner. It is a great Cinderela story and got him to where he is but he needs to learn new skills and move on and Jack Leow does not have what it takes to take him forward. This reminds me a bit of the Hatton Billy Graham relationship. They are great coaches for getting in peak shape but don't have the technical savy. If he had any real understanding he would have advised Kelly to turn down the Hopkins fight. I KNEW that fight was going to be a train wreck for him and was surprised Team Pavlik did not see that one coming.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

I agree with you and also TheUptownKid. Kelly and his Youngstown local working class hero thing has painted himself into a corner. It is a great Cinderela story and got him to where he is but he needs to learn new skills and move on and Jack Leow does not have what it takes to take him forward. This reminds me a bit of the Hatton Billy Graham relationship. They are great coaches for getting in peak shape but don't have the technical savy. If he had any real understanding he would have advised Kelly to turn down the Hopkins fight. I KNEW that fight was going to be a train wreck for him and was surprised Team Pavlik did not see that one coming.

He fought that fight strictly for a pay day but in the long run even if he had won that fight what would he have gained? At that time people would have said he beat an old Hopkins. Losing that fight was a double whammy he lost the bout he lost his 0 and he lost his position in boxing....Lefty