What of Pavlik now?

**LEFTYGUNZZ** · 11-24-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ

I ask myself this question of late. I look at King Arthur and what he has been able to do in his few fights. Taking the leap to SMW and beating the man whom Pavlik dethroned in a awesome fashion. he Arthur now sits atop the SMW division ranked #1 by BOXREC and many other critics and fans. I can't help to ask myself what of Pavlik now? Honestly this guy had the world in his pocket after he defeated JT in 07'. He picked himself up off the canvas and brought home the undisputed MW crown. FF and he gets schooled by Hopkins in 08 and now he can't get a decent fight with another big name. Well let me rephrase that, he can't get in the ring with another big name.

This so called hand issue he has had plagued him now for about 1 year. The fight with Williams was going to be exciting. The first time Pavliks name was attached to anything exciting since he fought Hopkins in October of 08. His only fight since October of 08 was against Rubio and it was a joke. Now he fights another non contender Miguel Espino and we get to see it live on PPV? WOW is all I got to say. A tune up fight live on PPV Bob Arum has been so busy with PACMAN he out did himself here with The Ghost. Ghost in the sense is we haven't seen the same Kelly Pavlik since he knocked out JT in 07. At least we haven't seen him in there with anyone worth mentioning. I take a look around the MW division and besides a match up with Williams at 160 I really don't see anyone else there. We might see Pavlik fight a WInky Wright at 160. Imagine that Wright get a title shot after he got destroyed by Williams? Pavlik to me is one of the biggest disappoinments in boxing over the past two years....Lefty

Damn is he that dead of an issue that I cannot get one single reply?....Lefty

**- v e t -** · 11-24-2009, 08:30 AM

lefty, im just sitting back and waiting to see if he can pick up where he left off...

ya know, other than the hopkins schooling, he was a good fighter to watch, not great, but good and exciting

i've lost a good bit of interest while waiting for him to defend his belt against a legit opponent

i dont want to bash him, but im not about to stand up for him... just waiting

**LEFTYGUNZZ** · 11-24-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by -veteran420-

lefty, im just sitting back and waiting to see if he can pick up where he left off...

ya know, other than the hopkins schooling, he was a good fighter to watch, not great, but good and exciting

i've lost a good bit of interest while waiting for him to defend his belt against a legit opponent

i dont want to bash him, but im not about to stand up for him... just waiting

I am truly disappointed my friend. I watched him defeat Miranda when Miranda was a force in the MW division. I thought to myself if he gets past JT he can do big things and make the MW erxciting again. I really wanted to see him clash with AA or even Sturm at a time. Now he fights bottom barrell opponents and charges us 29.99 to see it? He had the opportuniy to give us a good show vs Williams but the hand issue. I am beginning to wonder if the hand issue is a drinking problem or some other addiction? Oh by the way you want to put a bet on Berto with me I got 15k says that Mosely beats Berto?....Lefty

**- v e t -** · 11-24-2009, 08:36 AM

yeah i remember the miranda fight, at that time i didnt even know who pavlik was, i was kinda stoked cuz i thought miranda would be the one to finally beat taylor... then BAM pavlik BLEW UP ON THE MAP with that impressive victory.... then the first taylor fight was huge, a star was born

i think Loew is a bad influence on him, i could be wrong but thats what i think, i think kelly's past him as a trainer now and he wants to do what he has to do to make sure kelly doesnt leave him, kinda like a bug in his ear...

could be completely wrong, and i expected a lot more from kelly... A LOT... but im gonna just sit back and see what happens i guess

**- v e t -** · 11-24-2009, 08:37 AM

oh and about the mosley fight... i really dont have any betting interest, i believe mosley beats him easy... but i was given 5:1 odds so i HAD to take it lol

**LEFTYGUNZZ** · 11-24-2009, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by -veteran420-

oh and about the mosley fight... i really dont have any betting interest, i believe mosley beats him easy... but i was given 5:1 odds so i HAD to take it lol

Okay understood odds have an effect on your outlook of a fight. We are set to go...Pavlik to me is finished unless he beats a good name soon....Lefty

**mathed** · 11-24-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ

I ask myself this question of late. I look at King Arthur and what he has been able to do in his few fights. Taking the leap to SMW and beating the man whom Pavlik dethroned in a awesome fashion. he Arthur now sits atop the SMW division ranked #1 by BOXREC and many other critics and fans. I can't help to ask myself what of Pavlik now? Honestly this guy had the world in his pocket after he defeated JT in 07'. He picked himself up off the canvas and brought home the undisputed MW crown. FF and he gets schooled by Hopkins in 08 and now he can't get a decent fight with another big name. Well let me rephrase that, he can't get in the ring with another big name.

This so called hand issue he has had plagued him now for about 1 year. The fight with Williams was going to be exciting. The first time Pavliks name was attached to anything exciting since he fought Hopkins in October of 08. His only fight since October of 08 was against Rubio and it was a joke. Now he fights another non contender Miguel Espino and we get to see it live on PPV? WOW is all I got to say. A tune up fight live on PPV Bob Arum has been so busy with PACMAN he out did himself here with The Ghost. Ghost in the sense is we haven't seen the same Kelly Pavlik since he knocked out JT in 07. At least we haven't seen him in there with anyone worth mentioning. I take a look around the MW division and besides a match up with Williams at 160 I really don't see anyone else there. We might see Pavlik fight a WInky Wright at 160. Imagine that Wright get a title shot after he got destroyed by Williams? Pavlik to me is one of the biggest disappoinments in boxing over the past two years....Lefty

Pavlik used to be one of my favorite boxers but now, I don't care to much for him in the ring. I think he has personal issues that have resulted from the Hopkins loss that may have ruined his career, honestly.

**LEFTYGUNZZ** · 11-24-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by mathed

Pavlik used to be one of my favorite boxers but now, I don't care to much for him in the ring. I think he has personal issues that have resulted from the Hopkins loss that may have ruined his career, honestly.

You think that your boy Martinez is going to beat Williams? What about Berto and Mosely what do you thinka bout that fight?....Lefty

**Adamantium** · 11-24-2009, 09:10 AM

Hopefully Pavlik will bounce back soon, maybe the loss to Hopkins as well as personal problems has derailed his career. His still has time to get back on track.

What of Pavlik now?