More Impressed With Pac Everytime I Rewatch It!

[MANGLER]

I underestimated Pac's chin at WW. Not only did he outbox Cotto, but he ain't wait til after 6 to tear into him. He steamrolled him pretty much start to finish.

[Jose Rizal]

I actually think Jones has retooled his defense quite effectively but when your legs are as far gone as his, it doesn't matter. I doubt it'll be any different for Mayweather and Pacquiao should that ever happen to them.

Yeah he's modified somewhat, but I still see some heavy reliance on twitch. It's what makes Roy...Roy. It's programmed in his boxing psyche. He's too slow for that style to work anymore and he's very vulnerable right now to effective pressure, especially since his aura of being untouchable was taken away. It's sad to see him in that last Tarver fight. He couldn't do anything to win because he was forced to abandon those things he could do in the past that made him great.

Pac and PBF would start to get hit more in the long run (if there is a long run), but not as worse as RJJ, IMO.

[My 2 Cents]

For real? Barrera was there? I know Takanori Gomi was in the house.

Gomi? I like this guy back in his Pride fighting days. where's he at now?

[Syf]

Pac was hooking the **** out of Cotto's jab. I mean he probably did it like 10 times or something. I remember watching Floyd-Gatti and it was the 1st round. RJ was commentating at that time and I remember him saying that the speed advantage is so great that Floyd is already hooking off Gatti's jab. The way he said it you could tell that he was a great fighter that knew certain things to look for and after he said that I started noticing it. Thats something that sticks in my mind and I look for in every fight. Only guys with super speed, great awearness, and great skill can consistently pull that off and Pac did it on the regular.

When RJJ said that, I'm pretty sure he meant Floyd threw a jab, then hooked off it....the conventional setup shot for the hook (from orthodox stance: right cross to set up left hook..or... left jab to set up a right hook... or Floyd will just throw a left hand lead hook sometimes.

A hook off of an opponents jab? I saw Manny catch Cotto with a quick right hand a couple times when Cotto was ****ing his hook. And I saw Manny sidestep the jab, and hit with a jab, straight left combo. Hooking off an opponents jab would be problematic because of range. The opponent is trying to keep you at range with his jab, and a hook is a shorter distance attack, which is why it needs the jab or right hand lead setup usually to gauge the range before firing the hook....

Unless you are gifted like Pac or Floyd..then you can just throw lead hooks

Anyways, thought I would tell you what I know.

[DLT]

When RJJ said that, I'm pretty sure he meant Floyd threw a jab, then hooked off it....the conventional setup shot for the hook (from orthodox stance: right cross to set up left hook..or... left jab to set up a right hook... or Floyd will just throw a left hand lead hook sometimes.

A hook off of an opponents jab? I saw Manny catch Cotto with a quick right hand a couple times when Cotto was ****ing his hook. And I saw Manny sidestep the jab, and hit with a jab, straight left combo. Hooking off an opponents jab would be problematic because of range. The opponent is trying to keep you at range with his jab, and a hook is a shorter distance attack, which is why it needs the jab or right hand lead setup usually to gauge the range before firing the hook....

Unless you are gifted like Pac or Floyd..then you can just throw lead hooks

Anyways, thought I would tell you what I know.

Nah, I know what you mean though. Floyd throws the jab and then switches it to a hook. This one was really when Floyd was on D though. Gatti was jabbing and Floyd hooked him. Its right at the begining of the fight, like in the first 30 seconds

[patpatpts]

what round was it when pac ***** slap him in

[rao007]

Gomi? I like this guy back in his Pride fighting days. where's he at now?

He's still weighing his options. He recently visited American Kickboxing to train but he plans to make his next fight on U.S. soil. Do you know, there's a little Gomi on the way, i wonder if his head will be as big as his dad's. Scratch that, a female gomi, perhaps? Same scenario with the size head.

[JOM'S]

I've seen the Pac-Cotto fight fifteen times already....I'm so tired of Pac's greatness that I started watching the audience rather than he fight itself.

I downloaded and HD version of the fight and burned it in a Bluray DVD. The **** is so clear. Because of the quality....I was able to see Barrera in the 5th or 6th row cheering for Cotto. He was so happy when Cotto connected his first jab that rocked Pac's head in the first round. I can also see how Mark Whalberg is so much a pacnuthugger.....Will Ferrel was just unemotional sitting beside Mark. Mark probably brought him to the fight....Will is not really a fan of boxing or something. The Korean chick was cute and another Korean chick 2 seats far back was also cute. Bob Arum was trying not to cheer for anyone since both are his fighters.

I also tend to do that & watch the crowd/audience reaction ...

but did you really see Marco? I need to have HQ version ... lolz

[zeidrich]

great read, ill rewatch the fight later to just see the things you saw...

[Don Flamenco]

LOL Manny Pac ***** slap for the win!