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  • ThePunchingBag
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    #81
    Bad habits of Floyd Mayweather:

    1. He only throws the straight right counter from a stationary position.

    2. He lunges with his left hook.

    3. He only throws his right uppercut from a stationary position.

    4. He has a hard time adjusting to lateral movement.* Connected to # 1 and 3

    5. Has a bad habit of when overwhelmed, to lean on the ropes and pick shots off.

    6. Doesn't take risks. (Can be exploited by Roach)

    Mayweather is technically brilliant. What he lacks in offense he makes up for with exceptional defense. There are several ways to beat Mayweather. The most obvious is making Floyd change gears from defense to offense and to capitalize on his offensive mistakes. Since that is not likely to happen, the next best thing is to swarm Floyd and put him on defense every second of every round. You can't let him even think of offense. You have to keep him guessing about where the next punch will come from. Eventually his shell will crack when his arms and shoulders can take no more punishment. For this strategy you need a quick fisted fighter who can throw a speedy 4-5 punch combination and move out of range before Floyd starts thinking offense. This is the most likely strategy from Roach.

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    • Chups
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      #82
      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
      Whats up with the MYTH that Mayweather has trouble with southpaws?


      Floyd Mayweather vs DEMARCUS CORLEY

      Mayweather Landed 47% of his 50 punches per round and 53% of his power shots.

      Mayweather Outlanded Corley 283-150 in total punches.

      Mayweather Dropped Corley in 8th & 10th rounds, landing 28 power shots in 8th & 34 in 10th.

      OH and Mayweather shoulder rolled all night on Corley...

      8th & 10th rounds...problems with southpaws?


      Mayweather Finished strong, outlanding Corley 120-44 in power shots over last 5 rounds.

      Scoring: 119-107; 118-108; 119-108

      I sincerely hope this isn't ALL Freddie Roach has to go off of to prepare Manny Pacquiao for Floyd Mayweather

      Who the fuck is DeMarcus Corley? Is he a great southpaw? Was he ever considered the greatest lefthander of all time...or one of the best southpaws ever after Hagler and Whitaker?

      Who da fuck is Demarcus Corley??
      Who da fuck is Demarcus Corley??
      Who da fuck is Demarcus Corley??
      Who da fuck is Demarcus Corley??

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      • Pullcounter
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        #83
        floyd's flaws:

        1) low punch output

        2) doesn't throw the jab anymore

        3) shoulder-roll is useless against southpaws

        4) only fights overmatched opponents

        5) ducking real elite WWs.

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        • Lights0ut
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          #84
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
          Mayweather is technically brilliant. What he lacks in offense he makes up for with exceptional defense. There are several ways to beat Mayweather.
          You simplify it too much. The only way to beat a fighter as sound, skilled, and intelligent than Mayweather is to be BETTER than him. Do you believe Manny Pacquiao is a better overall fighter? Then so be it. Pick him to win. I for one DO NOT believe Manny Pacquiao is better than FMJ, and I'm beginning to suspect many Pacquiao fans don't either.

          The most obvious is making Floyd change gears from defense to offense and to capitalize on his offensive mistakes. Since that is not likely to happen, the next best thing is to swarm Floyd and put him on defense every second of every round.
          Like Jesus Chavez? Like Emananuel Augustus?

          That has been tried, and it failed. Manny Pacquiao will fight his fight against Floyd with minor adjustments. Perhaps a little more body work or you might see the right hook a bit more, but Freddie can't CHANGE what Pacquiao is from fight to fight. Pac is a great fighter, dynamic, who gives angles, and throws great combinations. But he is extremely hittable, his right hook is still underdeveloped, doesn't throw with leverage to the body, and has only a decent ability to adjust WITHIN a fight.

          I feel confidant picking Floyd.

          For this strategy you need a quick fisted fighter who can throw a speedy 4-5 punch combination and move out of range before Floyd starts thinking offense. This is the most likely strategy from Roach.
          With all due respect if this was your plan and you were in Pac's corner you'd likely get him knocked out. Nothing makes a counter puncher like Mayweather happier than somebody who comes forward non-stop throwing punches... even someone as quick and strong as Pac. The openings for counters would turn it into a field day.
          Last edited by Lights0ut; 11-23-2009, 01:40 PM.

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          • dans
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            #85
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            floyd's flaws:

            1) low punch output

            2) doesn't throw the jab anymore

            3) shoulder-roll is useless against southpaws

            4) only fights overmatched opponents

            5) ducking real elite WWs.
            How is it his problem that he's better than everyone?

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            • Jiddu Dali
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              #86
              Originally posted by dans01234
              How is it his problem that he's better than everyone?
              you must forgive Pull****er he lacks critical thinking

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              • dans
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                #87
                Originally posted by Lights0ut
                You simplify it too much. The only way to beat a fighter as sound, skilled, and intelligent than Mayweather is to be BETTER than him. Do you believe Manny Pacquiao is a better overall fighter? Then so be it. Pick him to win. I for one DO NOT believe Manny Pacquiao is better than FMJ, and I'm beginning to suspect many Pacquiao fans don't either.



                Like Jesus Chavez? Like Emananuel Augustus?

                That has been tried, and it failed. Manny Pacquiao will fight his fight against Floyd with minor adjustments. Perhaps a little more body work or you might see the right hook a bit more, but Freddie can't CHANGE what Pacquiao is from fight to fight. Pac is a great fighter, dynamic, who gives angles, and throws great combinations. But he is extremely hittable, his right hook is still underdeveloped, doesn't throw with leverage to the body, and has only a decent ability to adjust WITHIN a fight.

                I feel confidant picking Floyd.



                With all due respect if this was your plan and you were in Pac's corner you'd likely get him knocked out. Nothing makes a counter puncher like Mayweather happier than somebody who comes forward non-stop throwing punches... even someone as quick and strong as Pac. The openings for counters would turn it into a field day.
                Hey, that wasn't me, how'd that happen?

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                • Lights0ut
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                  #88
                  Fixed it dans, sorry about that. Don't know how that happened.

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                  • ThePunchingBag
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Lights0ut
                    Like Jesus Chavez? Like Emananuel Augustus?

                    That has been tried, and it failed. Manny Pacquiao will fight his fight against Floyd with minor adjustments. Perhaps a little more body work or you might see the right hook a bit more, but Freddie can't CHANGE what Pacquiao is from fight to fight. Pac is a great fighter, dynamic, who gives angles, and throws great combinations. But he is extremely hittable, his right hook is still underdeveloped, doesn't throw with leverage to the body, and has only a decent ability to adjust WITHIN a fight.

                    I feel confidant picking Floyd.

                    First, Jesus Chavez was not quick or speedy. Augustus's offense is nowhere near Pac's level he was not quick either. Freddy Roach doesn't need to change Pacquiao. Pac's offense is good enough to keep Floyd on the defensive every second of every round. If Floyd feels Pac's power, he won't take risks. If Floyd get's countered off his own counter, he'll stop throwing that counter. It's a mental flaw he has. He won't risk himself getting hurt in order to capitalize on Manny's mistakes. Which means Floyd will keep his offense to a minimum and that's just what Roach wants.

                    Originally posted by Lights0ut
                    With all due respect if this was your plan and you were in Pac's corner you'd likely get him knocked out. Nothing makes a counter puncher like Mayweather happier than somebody who comes forward non-stop throwing punches... even someone as quick and strong as Pac. The openings for counters would turn it into a field day.
                    Nothing messes up a counter puncher, more than tying up his punches with a swarm of combinations, switching angles and then doing it again. As long as you have some head movement with your offense, swarming works well against counter punchers. Especially when a guy like Pac is fast enough to take advantage of that brief opening in your defense and will take your counterpunch to land his own.

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                    • dans
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Lights0ut
                      Fixed it dans, sorry about that. Don't know how that happened.
                      Haha it's cool. I was reading it and I was like "Whaaaa..." I figured it out pretty quickly though.

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