What Andre Ward and Sven Ottke have in common

[Mozza]

No, not unless they start agreeing to hire neutral or even competent referees.

[Toney Loc]

Sure. I agree Ward is very fast and has every boxing skill imaginable. Even if the referee was fair, there was no way Kessler would have won a decision last night.

But I also know Kessler has decent handspeed and one-punch KO power, and Ward's been knocked down and hurt by clubfighters in the past.

So without the holding and headbutting, like it or not, there was definitely a chance Kessler would have won by KO.

Then why bother with this thread.

The rest of the post are just insecurities and an obvious refusal to give Ward his props.

[Allucard]

You honestly think Ward would not have dominated Kessler even in Denmark? Ffs that was a 10-0 wipe out at the time of stoppage.

But clearly he thinks (and he's probably right) that back at home, the same fight would have been a win for Kessler somehow.

These haters or as i call them, my ignore list don't really care about what happens in the ring, they are all about paper "legacies" 0's and race wars. Believe me, it's true. What happened to Tunney? Or the other white supremacist? Think they left? No, they are now Carnivore, shattered jaw and others who i wont bother to mention. These people and haters in general don't deserve a reply other than fuck you

[Zarco]

I think without the three cuts on Kessler due to Ward's headbutts in different rounds, and without the constant holding while hitting by Ward, it might have been a competitive fight.

dont forget to ad that maybe if andre ward hadnt landed all those quick shots that were snapping kesslers head back all night. dont forget to ad that maybe if ward hadnt moved so damn much, kessler would land.

Sure. I agree Ward is very fast and has every boxing skill imaginable. Even if the referee was fair, there was no way Kessler would have won a decision last night.

But I also know Kessler has decent handspeed and one-punch KO power, and Ward's been knocked down and hurt by clubfighters in the past.

So without the holding and headbutting, like it or not, there was definitely a chance Kessler would have won by KO.

he has one punch KO power for bums.....

[KESSLER]

No, he should not.

[The Hammer]

But clearly he thinks (and he's probably right) that back at home, the same fight would have been a win for Kessler somehow.

These haters or as i call them, my ignore list don't really care about what happens in the ring, they are all about paper "legacies" 0's and race wars. Believe me, it's true. What happened to Tunney? Or the other white supremacist? Think they left? No, they are now Carnivore, shattered jaw and others who i wont bother to mention. These people and haters in general don't deserve a reply other than fuck you

You're extremely racist, Allucard. You obviously hate Europeans.

[Shattered Jaw]

LMFAO @ me being a white supremacist. That's golden.

[The Hammer]

People were upset when Ward bragged in an interview how his promoter got Showtime to agree to have all his fights at home:

[SkillspayBills]

He was the better man last night no matter where they were. I do agree though, NO man should be able to have all their fights in their hometowns.

[TheUptownKid]

Sure. I agree Ward is very fast and has every boxing skill imaginable. Even if the referee was fair, there was no way Kessler would have won a decision last night.

But I also know Kessler has decent handspeed and one-punch KO power, and Ward's been knocked down and hurt by clubfighters in the past.

So without the holding and headbutting, like it or not, there was definitely a chance Kessler would have won by KO.

you're lying