Who ranks higher all time RJJ, Hopkins or Calzaghe?

[Kevin Jesus]

No, because Duran and Leonard exhibited exceptional skills and accomplishments during their primes.

Prime Jones holds wins against

McCallum, Hill, Hall, Hopkins, Toney, Woods

Mid Prime Jones holds wins against

Hall, Harding, Ruiz,

Past Prime Jones(Post Heavyweight Jones was obviously not the same fighter anymore) holds wins against

Tarver, Trinidad, Lacy and has losses against Tarver(2), Johnson and Calzaghe. Past prime Jones is currently number 2 Light Heavyweight in the world and has a scheduled Cruiserweight fight against Danny Green and a possible fight with Bernard Hopkins.

Are you going to compare this to Calzaghe's career?

[>Lord13<]

fact is he still only beat bums and shot fighters his whole career. Roy jones Jr was 40 years old and shot, whats so hard to understand about that? his win over RJJ means NOTHING. B-Hop was 44 years old and way past his prime aswell yet he still almost beat Calzaghe.

Calzaghe was AFRAID to go to america and fight the likes of tarver, jones jr, hopkins and johnson. while they where in their prime.

its funny how Calzaghe himself called RJJ a shot fighter a few years before they met and then fought him LMFAO.

its also funny how calzaghe rather choose to fight a shot 40 year old roy jones jr that was only a shell of his former self than a prime pavlik, dawson or taylor.

Popkins was ranked #2 in the P4P list, so stop arguing that Popkins was past it.

You don't make sense whatsoever when you mention guys like Pavlik, someone who was beat by according to you a "past" Popkins. What's the point of that fight even taking place?

At least by be constructive when making a point. Stop contradicting yourself. I don't even have to respond because you're just throwing your idiotic arguments to the trash (where it belongs) all on your own.

[123tyson123]

Go back and read my post again. I used very careful language - something that was obviously lost on you. I said Hopkins has two good wins - Tarver and Trinidad. I then said yes, he has names on his resume but they were not good fighters after Hopkins had them blown up (Winky, De La Hoya, Pavlik etc etc).

Ok fair point I understand where you coming from DLH and Wright where out of there divisions. I still think Hopkins is the superior fighter with a better resume.
And the Pavlik victory was a fantastic achievement.

[knockoutQ]

RJJ.....easily





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[daggum]

Don't be an idiot.
Calzaghe defended his title 21 times!!!
It's the 3rd highest total in history for ANY weight class. That's all-time-great material, and the fact that Popkins and Roy were part of Calzaghe's great legacy, means that he ranks higher than them. Not to mention the fact that they both ducked Calzaghe during his prime.

are you trying to prove calzaghe is better than ottke cause calzaghe has 21 title defenses..................but so does ottke. that is very fitting imo.

[Hyde]

Popkins was ranked #2 in the P4P list, so stop arguing that Popkins was past it.

You don't make sense whatsoever when you mention guys like Pavlik, someone who was beat by according to you a "past" Popkins. What's the point of that fight even taking place?

At least by be constructive when making a point. Stop contradicting yourself. I don't even have to respond because you're just throwing your idiotic arguments to the trash (where it belongs) all on your own.

Calzaghes resume is pure garbage. deal with it ***git.

Why did he fight a shot 40 year old roy jones jr when he had already admitted before that rjj was shot? He could have fought a prime fighter like Dawson, or kelly pavlik before he got beat by hopkins or even taylor but noooo he choosed a SHOT 40 year old legend that was only a shell of his former self instead.

he won on a split decison against a past prime 44 year old. many people including me thought he lost. throwing 100 slaps(that couldnt even knock out my dead grandma) and only hitting with 3 per round is not impressive.

[Hyde]

are you trying to prove calzaghe is better than ottke cause calzaghe has 21 title defenses..................but so does ottke. that is very fitting imo.

yep Calzaghe is no better than Sven Ottke.

[dde91]

This is way to easy. Hopkins is obviously the greater of the three.
Roy Jones beat Hopkins when Hopkins wasn't BERNARD HOPKINS. *AND RAN FROM A REMATCH FOR YEARS*
Calzaghe REALLY Lost to a 43 YEAR OLD bernard HOpkins.


Hopkins whooped Roy Jones conquerers.
And Calzaghe doesn't have Conquerers expect B-Hop because he hid in in Wales for a DECADE fighting weak opponents and getting bad stoppages by the refs.

B-HOP DEFENDED the MW title 20 TIMES! and had EVERY MAJOR BELT. now who will do that again?? He beat Winky when nobody wanted to fight him. Beat the **** out of Pavlik at 44 years old. Knocked out Tito *Tito is a Legit MW*, De La Hoya in their PRIMES. SHOULD of Beat Jermain Taylor both TIMES, but had WHACK decisions when he LOOKED like the better man both times.

Roy Jones fought a bunch of C level fighters his whole career. Entertained more then fighting for legacy. His only great win his James Toney. and thats about it. His Hopkins wins gets mentioned, but real boxing fans know that B-Hop was to green.

Calzaghe one of the most OVERRATED fighters in history ACCORDING TO THESES THREADS. i mean his biggest win is A ShOT ROY JONES UD!!!!!! His win over B-Hop is ****, B-Hop won. His Wins over Kessler and Lacy aren't nothing special because kessler is overrated 2 and Lacy is nothing but a C+ level fighter with power.

[dde91]

Prime Jones holds wins against

McCallum, Hill, Hall, Hopkins, Toney, Woods

Mid Prime Jones holds wins against

Hall, Harding, Ruiz,

Past Prime Jones(Post Heavyweight Jones was obviously not the same fighter anymore) holds wins against

Tarver, Trinidad, Lacy and has losses against Tarver(2), Johnson and Calzaghe. Past prime Jones is currently number 2 Light Heavyweight in the world and has a scheduled Cruiserweight fight against Danny Green and a possible fight with Bernard Hopkins.

Are you going to compare this to Calzaghe's career?

He is not a NUMBER 2 LHW. just for beating LACY??? Bull****.

[SkilledB]

No, because Duran and Leonard exhibited exceptional skills and accomplishments during their primes.

and Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins diddn't?

gtfo