Serious Question: How would Steroids help your chin?

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    Originally posted by Soir
    Roids allow you to take more punishment in the gym by dulling the pain, I Imagine it works the same way in the ring.

    Pacquiao did not feel any of those shots from Cotto and thats why he was surprised to see his own face such a mess after the fight.
    Well I touched on taking certain types of pain medicines before that could help with pain...that was also brought up during that Paulie M. radio interview after he was off the air. One of the guys said he knew MMA fighters in Japan that were taking certain Pain medicines that helped pump you up but wouldn't hurt your cognitive function.



    But here is the thing: MENTAL MINDSET. The body can do many things if you are mentally prepared the right way and that takes time to build-up. The best medicine is within your body. Your body can release it's own high powered PEDs. Testosterone, HGH, Insulin, Endorphins, Adrenaline, etc. is all in your body...although it is on auto-control (for most people).
    You have pain? Forget a pill...tap into the chemicals in your body if you can. They think future medicine might go that way.
    Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-21-2009, 03:15 PM.

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      #12
      i've said it like 3 times now...steroids can improve your ability to take a punch...if you increase the strength and stabilizer muscles in your neck and shoulders...it enhances the ability for your neck to absorb the shock from a punch...ask a wrestler why they work on neck strength...boxers do the same...why do you think that floyd has that strap on his head with the weight that people like to make fun of? with a combo of steroids and this thing:



      you can take better punches...how many of you all are in boxing and don't know this?

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      • screwhead1
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        #13
        oh and steroids also have the ability to delay or scramble pain receptors...

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #14
          Originally posted by screwhead1
          i've said it like 3 times now...steroids can improve your ability to take a punch...if you increase the strength and stabilizer muscles in your neck and shoulders...it enhances the ability for your neck to absorb the shock from a punch...ask a wrestler why they work on neck strength...boxers do the same...why do you think that floyd has that strap on his head with the weight that people like to make fun of? with a combo of steroids and this thing:



          you can take better punches...how many of you all are in boxing and don't know this?
          People have made fun of Floyd for using the neck device, really?

          I didn't know there were any that didn't do some form of neck workout in the Pros.

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          • bbos
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            #15
            Originally posted by Soir
            Roids allow you to take more punishment in the gym by dulling the pain, I Imagine it works the same way in the ring.

            Pacquiao did not feel any of those shots from Cotto and thats why he was surprised to see his own face such a mess after the fight.
            roids do not allow one to take more punishment, rather, it allows one to recover in between work out periods faster, and pac did feel pain from those shots, he just had a poker face on, same as every pro boxer would.

            Originally posted by ItaZY
            wow okay look, why is it harded to knock out a MW than a WW? BEcause a MW's surrounding neck area is biggger, stronger and more durable. When your taking steroids you are getting the same affect. Don't give me all this BS it increases everything besides your chin. Every part of your body is going to be stronger and more durable, including your chin.
            cotto did hit pac hard and snapped his head back several times, this means Pac's neck was not strong enough to decelerate the force of the punch, which means his brain was indeed concussed, so why didn't he get koed? go back and read my post on scientific facts regarding the pathology of a knock out and you'll understand.

            Originally posted by screwhead1
            i've said it like 3 times now...steroids can improve your ability to take a punch...if you increase the strength and stabilizer muscles in your neck and shoulders...it enhances the ability for your neck to absorb the shock from a punch...ask a wrestler why they work on neck strength...boxers do the same...why do you think that floyd has that strap on his head with the weight that people like to make fun of? with a combo of steroids and this thing:



            you can take better punches...how many of you all are in boxing and don't know this?
            again, cotto hit pac hard and snapped his head back violently several times, this means Pac's neck was not strong enough to decelerate the force of the punch, which means his brain was indeed concussed, if he was on steroids and put on 5 lbs of muscles on his neck, would pac's head still get snapped back as violently as it did that night, of course not.


            Originally posted by screwhead1
            oh and steroids also have the ability to delay or scramble pain receptors...
            please you are thinking of anesthetics that dull or delay information relay from nerves to the brain, such as those used during surgery. steroids does not have effect on nerve cells.

            lastly from a purely observational point of view, cotto hits harder then delahoya, yet when delahoya fought a juiced up varges, delahoya knocked vargas out. by all your reasoning, vargas who in fact did use steroids was knocked out by a man that hits softer then cotto, where was his HGH enhanced chin? where is the logic in that?

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            • bbos
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              #16
              Originally posted by Benny Leonard
              Well I touched on taking certain types of pain medicines before that could help with pain...that was also brought up during that Paulie M. radio interview after he was off the air. One of the guys said he knew MMA fighters in Japan that were taking certain Pain medicines that helped pump you up but wouldn't hurt your cognitive function.



              But here is the thing: MENTAL MINDSET. The body can do many things if you are mentally prepared the right way and that takes time to build-up. The best medicine is within your body. Your body can release it's own high powered PEDs. Testosterone, HGH, Insulin, Endorphins, Adrenaline, etc. is all in your body...although it is on auto-control (for most people).
              You have pain? Forget a pill...tap into the chemicals in your body if you can. They think future medicine might go that way.
              no future of medicine lies within the quantum realm, nanobots, rather robots the size one thousandths the size of your hair strand can be swallowed and cure diseases on the molecular scale, ie. eradicating cancer cells individually as opposed to impercise method of chemo radiation we use right now.

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              • -Antonio-
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                #17
                It might if you inject yourself close to the fight.

                Manny didn't do steroids though. He built muscle mass over time, just like a lot of regular people do...

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                • Benny Leonard
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bbos
                  no future of medicine lies within the quantum realm, nanobots, rather robots the size one thousandths the size of your hair strand can be swallowed and cure diseases on the molecular scale, ie. eradicating cancer cells individually as opposed to impercise method of chemo radiation we use right now.
                  Interesting.

                  Any other cool info you have you can send me?

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                  • JulVal
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bbos
                    roids do not allow one to take more punishment, rather, it allows one to recover in between work out periods faster, and pac did feel pain from those shots, he just had a poker face on, same as every pro boxer would.



                    cotto did hit pac hard and snapped his head back several times, this means Pac's neck was not strong enough to decelerate the force of the punch, which means his brain was indeed concussed, so why didn't he get koed? go back and read my post on scientific facts regarding the pathology of a knock out and you'll understand.



                    again, cotto hit pac hard and snapped his head back violently several times, this means Pac's neck was not strong enough to decelerate the force of the punch, which means his brain was indeed concussed, if he was on steroids and put on 5 lbs of muscles on his neck, would pac's head still get snapped back as violently as it did that night, of course not.




                    please you are thinking of anesthetics that dull or delay information relay from nerves to the brain, such as those used during surgery. steroids does not have effect on nerve cells.

                    lastly from a purely observational point of view, cotto hits harder then delahoya, yet when delahoya fought a juiced up varges, delahoya knocked vargas out. by all your reasoning, vargas who in fact did use steroids was knocked out by a man that hits softer then cotto, where was his HGH enhanced chin? where is the logic in that?
                    Great post dude. I bet no *****s can contest this ****.

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by krazyn8tive
                      roids and lifting weights WILL NOT improve your chin or ability to take a punch.
                      Bro, if you want your posts to get read, you need to change that sig. lol

                      Trying to read your post was like trying to look her in the eye during a conversation. lol
                      Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 11-21-2009, 10:17 PM.

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