Lets Compare Pacquiao and Floyd

[Prince Vegeta]

First is 5 weight classes to 5 weight classes
2 lineal to 4


quallity of opposition Manny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>< Floyd!!

Quality of opposition, I won't get in to that because that is a matter of opinion.

Well alright I disagree with the 5 weight class vs 5 weight class but you just made it closer that way.

4 lineal titles? I know about 3, Featherweight, Super Featherweight, and Jr Welterweight. Care to fill me in on Pacquiao's 4th Lineal title?

[El Jesus]

I guess people dont like facts here in NSB!!!!!!

while i dont even feel like getting into it. there were alot of unfortunate factors for mayweather that happened when he got to 140. all of the sudden, nobody really wanted to fight him. he had to force mandatories and take less than glamerous fights since at the time, Tszyu was injured and on another network. hatton "wasnt ready" and cotto "wasnt ready".

Vivian Harris made a fool of himself calling out Mayweather (particularly a ***g0t) and then getting knocked out by Carlos Maussa on the gatti/mayweather undercard. When Hatton held the title instead of going for mayweather, he went for maussa, this forced mayweather to move up to a superfight (at the time) with judah. there was simply nobody to fight at 140.

Even to get in with gatti, he had to force a mandatory in Henry Brusselles.

Cotto was up and coming and Arum..particularly evangelista didint exactly want to throw their guy in with mayweather, which would have been a terrible idea.

Regardless, 140 mayweather left it since nobody wanted to face him. At 147 things got very very unfortunate. When judah lost and the fight was already signed, they reworked the contract and went through with it, since people still wanted to see it. He then fought baldomir because the public actually demanded that fight. Margarito drama aside, which mostly took place on the internet, the baldomir fight was seen as a risk to mayweather potential big money fight against oscar.


You want facts? Explain to me how at 140, with hatton, cotto, hatton and tszyu as champions, the only fight that happened was a tszyu wrestling match in manchester?

The fact is, mayweather promotional situation didint exactly help in some ways. Mayweather hasnt fought a "top rank" fighter since he left the stable.

Of course the fact that shane ducked a 99 fight (which was understandable), then ducked an 06 fight, (which was B.S) is not a fact to you im assuming. And that hatton "wasnt ready" until 2007, when they could have got it on in 04/05/06?

That fact is, Pac was seen as a more winnable fight, there was a willingness for fighters to potentially make big money off a little guy whom many of us thought was having a good run, but would eventually get cracked by a larger fighter, but pacs skills made it so that did not happen.

With mayweather, you basically saw beating after beating against a guy who didint exactly have a huge following, and was impossible to hit. Nobody wanted to get in with him until really after the oscar fight. The margarito thing was used because Arum needed to make mayweather not only look bad, but also used it to gas up margarito, who was a ****in nobody at the time.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Quality of opposition, I won't get in to that because that is a matter of opinion.

Well alright I disagree with the 5 weight class vs 5 weight class but you just made it closer that way.

4 lineal titles? I know about 3, Featherweight, Super Featherweight, and Jr Welterweight. Care to fill me in on Pacquiao's 4th Lineal title?

112 WBC champioship fight against Chatchai Sasakul!!!!!

[S A M U R A I]

get real, Hatton, Cotto and DLH all need to come off since they were all damaged goods or over the hill

and JMM needs to come off since manny lost

nothing more than a ******* thread

Does that mean Pacquiao was damaged goods, since he was already KO'd twice and lost a close decision to Morales?

And if so, Floyd doesn't deserve any credit IF he beat Pacquiao?

Lastly, if Marquez "beat" Pacquiao (get real, moron) then Castillo beat Mayweather, right?

Anyone who ever had a close fight but didn't officially get the win "beat" the guy who really did get the win?


You're reaching.



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[Ch@mpBox@PR]

while i dont even feel like getting into it. there were alot of unfortunate factors for mayweather that happened when he got to 140. all of the sudden, nobody really wanted to fight him. he had to force mandatories and take less than glamerous fights since at the time, Tszyu was injured and on another network. hatton "wasnt ready" and cotto "wasnt ready".

Vivian Harris made a fool of himself calling out Mayweather (particularly a ***g0t) and then getting knocked out by Carlos Maussa on the gatti/mayweather undercard. When Hatton held the title instead of going for mayweather, he went for maussa, this forced mayweather to move up to a superfight (at the time) with judah. there was simply nobody to fight at 140.

Even to get in with gatti, he had to force a mandatory in Henry Brusselles.

Cotto was up and coming and Arum..particularly evangelista didint exactly want to throw their guy in with mayweather, which would have been a terrible idea.

Regardless, 140 mayweather left it since nobody wanted to face him. At 147 things got very very unfortunate. When judah lost and the fight was already signed, they reworked the contract and went through with it, since people still wanted to see it. He then fought baldomir because the public actually demanded that fight. Margarito drama aside, which mostly took place on the internet, the baldomir fight was seen as a risk to mayweather potential big money fight against oscar.


You want facts? Explain to me how at 140, with hatton, cotto, hatton and tszyu as champions, the only fight that happened was a tszyu wrestling match in manchester?

The fact is, mayweather promotional situation didint exactly help in some ways. Mayweather hasnt fought a "top rank" fighter since he left the stable.

Of course the fact that shane ducked a 99 fight (which was understandable), then ducked an 06 fight, (which was B.S) is not a fact to you im assuming. And that hatton "wasnt ready" until 2007, when they could have got it on in 04/05/06?

That fact is, Pac was seen as a more winnable fight, there was a willingness for fighters to potentially make big money off a little guy whom many of us thought was having a good run, but would eventually get cracked by a larger fighter, but pacs skills made it so that did not happen.

With mayweather, you basically saw beating after beating against a guy who didint exactly have a huge following, and was impossible to hit. Nobody wanted to get in with him until really after the oscar fight. The margarito thing was used because Arum needed to make mayweather not only look bad, but also used it to gas up margarito, who was a ****in nobody at the time.

**** all that unfortunate ****. F.oyd call gatti a paper champ and then trued ti make it seem like ait was a super great win. Mayweather himself said Cotto was too green.

2. At 147 unfortunately. I guess you didnt read what i wrote. I already explain he had to fight baldomir, but ducking Margarito the WBO WW champion was bull****!!

3. I said Mosley ducked Floyd also.

Please so now, nobody wanted to face FLoyd? **** outta here with that bull****!!!


You need to start reading things before talking nonsense buddy.

[Doctor_Tenma]

while i dont even feel like getting into it. there were alot of unfortunate factors for mayweather that happened when he got to 140. all of the sudden, nobody really wanted to fight him. he had to force mandatories and take less than glamerous fights since at the time, Tszyu was injured and on another network. hatton "wasnt ready" and cotto "wasnt ready".

Vivian Harris made a fool of himself calling out Mayweather (particularly a ***g0t) and then getting knocked out by Carlos Maussa on the gatti/mayweather undercard. When Hatton held the title instead of going for mayweather, he went for maussa, this forced mayweather to move up to a superfight (at the time) with judah. there was simply nobody to fight at 140.

Even to get in with gatti, he had to force a mandatory in Henry Brusselles.

Cotto was up and coming and Arum..particularly evangelista didint exactly want to throw their guy in with mayweather, which would have been a terrible idea.

Regardless, 140 mayweather left it since nobody wanted to face him. At 147 things got very very unfortunate. When judah lost and the fight was already signed, they reworked the contract and went through with it, since people still wanted to see it. He then fought baldomir because the public actually demanded that fight. Margarito drama aside, which mostly took place on the internet, the baldomir fight was seen as a risk to mayweather potential big money fight against oscar.


You want facts? Explain to me how at 140, with hatton, cotto, hatton and tszyu as champions, the only fight that happened was a tszyu wrestling match in manchester?

The fact is, mayweather promotional situation didint exactly help in some ways. Mayweather hasnt fought a "top rank" fighter since he left the stable.

Of course the fact that shane ducked a 99 fight (which was understandable), then ducked an 06 fight, (which was B.S) is not a fact to you im assuming. And that hatton "wasnt ready" until 2007, when they could have got it on in 04/05/06?

That fact is, Pac was seen as a more winnable fight, there was a willingness for fighters to potentially make big money off a little guy whom many of us thought was having a good run, but would eventually get cracked by a larger fighter, but pacs skills made it so that did not happen.

With mayweather, you basically saw beating after beating against a guy who didint exactly have a huge following, and was impossible to hit. Nobody wanted to get in with him until really after the oscar fight. The margarito thing was used because Arum needed to make mayweather not only look bad, but also used it to gas up margarito, who was a ****in nobody at the time.

Agree with everything but I don't think Shane should have declined Mayweather's offer in 99. He faught Rivera and Willie Wise, he could have used that time to face Floyd.

[S A M U R A I]

sycomantz, I'm waiting for your reply.

Try to wriggle out of it if you can, because I know you can't argue against the points I made, it's, ****ing impossible.



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[Prince Vegeta]

112 WBC champioship fight against Chatchai Sasakul!!!!!

There is something weird with my research. I am checking The Ring champions and see no Manny Pacquiao at 112. I do see him in FW, SFW, and JWW.

May you send me a link to this, just to make sure?

[El Jesus]

**** all that unfortunate ****. F.oyd call gatti a paper champ and then trued ti make it seem like ait was a super great win. Mayweather himself said Cotto was too green.

2. At 147 unfortunately. I guess you didnt read what i wrote. I already explain he had to fight baldomir, but ducking Margarito the WBO WW champion was bull****!!

3. I said Mosley ducked Floyd also.

Please so now, nobody wanted to face FLoyd? **** outta here with that bull****!!!


You need to start reading things before talking nonsense buddy.

at 140. no. nobody wanted to face floyd. its at welterweight is where all these issues started, and they started after he faced judah when that fight was already signed.

Again, go back to what i said about 140. Which champion other than vivian harris, whom was humiliated the same night mayweather fought gatti, was willing to lay their belt on the line against mayweather? It wasnt hatton. it wasnt cotto. who?

Infact like i said, which title fights took place when floyd was at that weight? tszyu/hatton floyd/gatti and hatton/maussa.

Miguel Cotto didint face a single unification fight, they kept him away from that to help develop him. thats understandable, but by that logic, you are basically saying "well cotto ducked everyone at 140 other than floyd leftovers". Thats unfair isnt it?

Mayweather ducking margarito always gets a pass from me and ill tell you why. Mayweather would have potshotted to an easy UD12 and would have gotten absolutely no credit for it at all. I was in no way intruiged by that matchup because i already knew margarito wasnt that good. He would have followed mayweather around while he did what he did to baldomir.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

There is something weird with my research. I am checking The Ring champions and see no Manny Pacquiao at 112. I do see him in FW, SFW, and JWW.

May you send me a link to this, just to make sure?

That means crap. the RIng is not the all end all.

Sasakul was the lineal champ at 112 and Manny beat him. Just like Zort Erdei was the lineal 175 Champ but wasnt the ring champ!!!!