How will Manny deal with Mayweather's right cross?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Pac has looked fast in his last 4 fights vs slow left handed fighters. .

lol, if thats even true, how does that not work against Mayweather as well?

I know you specifically stated left handed fighters,

but in the last couple of years,

they have 3 common opponents.


So because of those opponents,

it makes Pac look faster,

but not Floyd?


Your math isn't working.

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Pac has looked fast in his last 4 fights vs slow left handed fighters. Just last year in 2008 he fought Marquez and was out landed and outboxed...and this was the new and improved Pac.

Is it a coincidence Team Pac hasnt fought any right hand dominant boxers since? I dont think Pac is faster that Mayweather, Pac swarms with punches and he lunges & stretches for punches. I think Mayweather would eat Pac man up with Counters and lead right hands. Mayweather will put in a nice body attack on Pac too, Mayweather is taller, has a longer reach and has a defense that is going to frustrate him. I dont think Pac is fast enough to counter Mayweather coming in with the straight right. Mayweather can easily outbox him from the outside, and then what is Pac gonna do? Bob and weave & Jab on his toes?....UM NO!....

Mayweather is much smarter than Pac......Pac's style is very effective against stationary brawlers or slugger because he can out maneuver them and out speed them. But vs techinical boxer's his style is all wrong and once he realizes that Mayweather doesnt care to engage him and is easily scoring from a distance, he will get frustrated and desperate and Mayweather will pick him apart.

Very good analysis. I also feel that way as well. The only thing I would beg to differ is the fact that Pacquiao has enough power and speed to catch Mayweather off guard, along with an awkwardcy that can cause problems for Mayweather's counters. Besides that this pretty much sums up how this match can turn out to be IMO. Hopefully it doesn't though, I'd love to see Pacquiao surprise me again.

[Jiddu Dali]

if zab can knock mayweather down with a check hook then manny can as well

He didnt knock him down their feet got caught up. And Zab is a counter puncher. It will be easier for Mayweather to hit Manny than it was for him to Hit Judah

[Jiddu Dali]

lol, if thats even true, how does that not work against Mayweather as well?

I know you specifically stated left handed fighters,

but in the last couple of years,

they have 3 common opponents.


So because of those opponents,

it makes Pac look faster,

but not Floyd?


Your math isn't working.

I see what you are saying, but how would the Pac of 2007 that fought Marco Antonio Barrera to a UD do Vs the Hatton that Mayweather fought in 2007?

[Jiddu Dali]

ok mayweather engaged and zab countered..my bad i used the wrong word..now i kno u take things to seriously!

Judah landed a few (no more than 5) nice left hands & won 3 rounds at best. whoopty due.....

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Manny had a bit of difficulty dealing with Cotto's cross. In the last 2 rounds, while Cotto was struggling to stay on his feet, he was landing some good cross punches. They were really snapping Manny's head back.

I've spent the last week thinking about the inevitable Mayweather/Pacquiao fight and I just can't think of any way Pacquiao will be able to deal with Mayweather's cross. It is (in my opinion) the most perfectly timed punch in all of boxing. If Mayweather uses this punch to pot shot and counter pacquiao I feel like it's an easy UD.

But i didn't make this thread to convince you all that mayweather will win the fight. I'm not a typical boxing scene fanboy. Quite the opposite in fact. I want to be convinced that Pacquiao can deal with this strategy.

I was so sure that Cotto was going to win last saturday. I went on and on about how ridiculous the betting lines were. Pacquiao through punches from angles that I just didn't understand. I mean honestly the angles were so awkward yet perfect ... I don't even know what to say about his style ... just WOW. I dont think anyone in the history of boxing has fought with his style before. No comparisons due him justice.

So back to my original question: How in the world will Pacquiao stop Mayweather's pot-shot right cross?

Tell you what, maybe ask Shawn in this thread? He probably is able to discuss technical details better than anyone else on the forums right now. Peace.



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[Vasyl’s dad]

I see what you are saying, but how would the Pac of 2007 that fought Marco Antonio Barrera to a UD do Vs the Hatton that Mayweather fought in 2007?

You mean the Barrera that ran for the entire fight and was scared to engage, and you're talking about the Hatton that looked like **** against every welter he faced?

He'd still knock his ass out.

[Jiddu Dali]

Very good analysis. I also feel that way as well. The only thing I would beg to differ is the fact that Pacquiao has enough power and speed to catch Mayweather off guard, along with an awkwardcy that can cause problems for Mayweather's counters. Besides that this pretty much sums up how this match can turn out to be IMO. Hopefully it doesn't though, I'd love to see Pacquiao surprise me again.

I think once Manny realizes he cant rush in vs Mayweather like he has in previous fights his aggression & punch output will drop. Then what does he do? Mayweater will not play to the crowd or not fight smart. He can easily box Pac to a UD, he is the bigger, faster fighter.

I hear all of this Pac backed Cotto down so he will back Mayweather down...lol...yeah right. I guarantee that Mayweather will back Pacquiao backwards and will land the more effective shots to the head and body. Pac cant throw hands like Mayweather nor is his defense good. You see how Cotto busted him up and Cotto was landing one punch at a time.......people are delusional.

Pac has never seen a defense like Mayweather, but plenty of Mayweathers opponents have tried to bull him with power, speed and punches...and it hasnt worked.......a pure boxer has the best chance at beating Mayweather's style

Mayweather is going to break Pac down & he wont look so fast and unstoppable. Marquez layed the blueprint on how to beat Pac......and Mayweather has the style to effectively disrupt Pac's offensive attack.

Castillo was more of a swarmer than Pac is. Once again I ask: Where was this BUZZSAW Pac just last year vs the right handed, counterpunching Marquez?

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Pac has looked fast in his last 4 fights vs slow left handed fighters. Just last year in 2008 he fought Marquez and was out landed and outboxed...and this was the new and improved Pac.

Is it a coincidence Team Pac hasnt fought any right hand dominant boxers since? I dont think Pac is faster that Mayweather, Pac swarms with punches and he lunges & stretches for punches. I think Mayweather would eat Pac man up with Counters and lead right hands. Mayweather will put in a nice body attack on Pac too, Mayweather is taller, has a longer reach and has a defense that is going to frustrate him. I dont think Pac is fast enough to counter Mayweather coming in with the straight right. Mayweather can easily outbox him from the outside, and then what is Pac gonna do? Bob and weave & Jab on his toes?....UM NO!....

Mayweather is much smarter than Pac......Pac's style is very effective against stationary brawlers or slugger because he can out maneuver them and out speed them. But vs techinical boxer's his style is all wrong and once he realizes that Mayweather doesnt care to engage him and is easily scoring from a distance, he will get frustrated and desperate and Mayweather will pick him apart.

Jiddu, I disagree, my friend. 2008/Marquez II was not the "improved" Pacquiao at all. In fact he was drained at 130, it was killing him, and at this point his right wasn't anywhere near as powerful as it is now.

2009/2010 140lb+ Pacquiao is much better.

Personally, I don't think Manny will give a crap about Floyd's best shots.



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