If a boxer is excessively clinching, should the ref deduct points and or Dq?

**JohnCIV6** · 11-19-2009, 08:39 PM

I don't think he should ever dq.. It's not really harming anyone. If it's really out of hand I think a point should be deducted. If he continues, keep taking a point away.

**Freddy Krueger** · 11-19-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by JohnCIV6

I don't think he should ever dq.. It's not really harming anyone. If it's really out of hand I think a point should be deducted. If he continues, keep taking a point away.

Hopkins was the worst against Calzaghe, and his fans excuses were that he was an old man who went on to whoop Pavlik though. And theirs even a gif image of Hopkins looking like he gave an intentional headbutt right infront of Cortez's eyes and Cortez did jack ****.

**PittyPat** · 11-19-2009, 08:41 PM

Keep taking off points for sure, but there has to be a standardised protocol for it. Refs are never consistent in what they see as too much holding - by rights Cortez should've taken loads of points away from Hopkins against Calzaghe, but the ref for Berto-Collazo wasn't right when he took a point off Berto without even warning.

**sweetpea87** · 11-19-2009, 08:42 PM

O yeah. Watch Lennox Lewis vs Henry Akanwande, good ol' Mills Lane warned him repeatedly then took points away then eventually DQ him.

**ИATAS** · 11-19-2009, 08:43 PM

like pittypat says there needs to be some sort of protocol and standards in place, if not no points or dq are really warranted.

There is a place for clinching and when used correctly it's very effective and important tool of boxing. I mean look at shane mosley vs margarito and compare that to cotto vs margarito. One of those guys clinched, the other got KO'd.

**Jose Rizal** · 11-19-2009, 08:44 PM

If it's turning into nothing but a hug fest than yeah.

**Bhopreign** · 11-19-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Freddy Krueger

What do you say

Bottom line if a fighter doesnt want to be clinched they wont let themselves be clinched repeatedly. The same way it takes skill in order to wrap a man up, it takes skill to not let such a thing happen. Reaching out to clinch a man is putting yourself in harm's way as you are vulnerable to being hit.

**Freddy Krueger** · 11-19-2009, 08:45 PM

**Princemanspopa** · 11-19-2009, 08:46 PM

Unless your entire offense consists of clinching as Henry Akinwande's was against Lennox Lewis then neither points nor a possible DQ should ever be used.

If a boxer is excessively clinching, should the ref deduct points and or Dq?