Joe Santiago told Cotto after the first round..

[oside4life]

Let me ask you guys: What the **** is wrong with quitting anyway? If you were in a street fight and could end up dead, would you quit? Of course you ****ing would.

Stop this macho bull****, it's boring. It doesn't make you more of a man, it makes you more of a ****** to take a sustained beating and end up like a cabbage in a wheelchair.

Evolve, mother****ers.

lol exactly but I did think cotto wanted too but then his pride said screw it i'm going to try to last, maybe he put money on himself going the distance lol. I rerember saying bull**** when ref stopped it "kind of drunk" then I rewatched it the next day and said thankyou lol

[MANGLER]

I never called u a cotto hater I agreed with everything you said, your one of the people on this board I take seriously.

Hence the quotation marks, I was mockin the butthurt stans.

Don't be ******. Not once has he ever said anything bad about Cotto.

I know this for a fact, because I see him and trade messages with him every single day on here.

I'm bored at work Sam. Let em *****. I got **** to do til 5.

mangler you a Cotto hater boy. You set up a bunch of crap in this past few months by saying a Cotto win over Pacquiao meant nothing because he was bigger and all that **** just to discredit him if he won and **** on him if he loss. You just need to come out and say it. Half of this forum already knows the true.

I been 1 of the only non PR cats defendin Cotto ever since the Clottey fight. I said all along the DLH win ain't convince me he was a real WW, and Cotto was too big for him, KO by 6. I **** on Pac for askin for a catchweight even tho I thought Cotto would be fine at 145. I **** on Cotto for acceptin the fight when he coulda rematched SSM for the lineal title or rematched Clottey.

Your boy lost, he's now an afterthought on here for cats who wanna talk about Pac-Mr boat buyer, and it makes you mad. Not my problem homey.

[BMWM3P]

Did you listenten to the post fight *******?

Cotto's own words were his corner talked him into keep fighting after the 10th if I'm not mistaken.

His father wanted it stopped as well.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I swear I heard out of Cotto's own mouth he wanted to quit.

I'm looking for the post fight video interviews but can't find it on youtube

Wrong he never said he never said such thing, that's was just your inner mexican talking.

[Pounding]

Did you listenten to the post fight *******?

Cotto's own words were his corner talked him into keep fighting after the 10th if I'm not mistaken.

His father wanted it stopped as well.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I swear I heard out of Cotto's own mouth he wanted to quit.

I'm looking for the post fight video interviews but can't find it on youtube

What he wanted to say probably got lost in translation. I saw after the 11th round him saying "one more round let's finish the fight"

[oside4life]

The fact of the matter is JOe Santiago should have thrown in the towel no matter what cotto said after the 9th round but he is a yes man not a trainer he's a fregin buddy damn miguel why be so stubburn and get a real trainer but it's to fregin late now i'm afraid.

[S A M U R A I]

Why the **** are you telling this to me? I was not the one one who call him a quitter.

Read properly.

I guess he forgot all the times Cotto was asked if he wanted to stop the fight and he said "I am good". And after the 11th when he said "what round is coming?" "Joe said 12th" and he said "OK one more let's finish this"

But now he wanted to quit?

That's what I replied to. I am sick of this "quitter" bull****. It doesn't make you more of a man to get your face beaten so badly that you end up looking like a football.



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[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Wrong he never said he never said such thing, that's was just your inner mexican talking.

I have said a million times I don't give a *** who wins this fight. I'm almost sure he said he wanted the fight stopped but was talked back into it.

I call it like I see it, I don't care about your obsession with Mexico vs PR or any of that bull****.

I have said nothing but good things about Cotto since he fought early on in his career. I just sear I heard him say that.

If anyone can post the post fight interview with Cotto in the ring because I can't find it anywhere on the net.

Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I just want to see the video for myself.

[oside4life]

I have said a million times I don't give a *** who wins this fight. I'm almost sure he said he wanted the fight stopped but was talked back into it.

I call it like I see it, I don't care about your obsession with Mexico vs PR or any of that bull****.

I have said nothing but good things about Cotto since he fought early on in his career. I just sear I heard him say that.

If anyone can post the post fight interview with Cotto in the ring because I can't find it anywhere on the net.

Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I just want to see the video for myself.

I think he did say something along the lines of stopping the fight but had second thoughts to finish it. But santiago should have right then said no mas period.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I understand what you are saying but you want to know what hardest part of being a trainer is? It's not the sweaty smelly gym, the lack of pay or the fact you have to drive long distances sometimes to fights or gyms.

It's the PATIENCE you need. For example, the guy I study under, he has been involved in boxing for over 30 years, he's an ex pro himself and has all the right knowledge in his head.

The problem is, he has no patience....NONE. He's a screamer, a yeller. He curses you and puts you down. I have learned that with the kids today, that doesn't work. You need to treat each one individually.

When you are in the corner and you see your fighter not doing the things you went over in the gym 1000x's, nothing is more frustrating. I don't know what Santiago told Cotto in the corner, I don't know if he doesn't know much about boxing.

What I do know is that Cotto came out strong for 2 rounds. After that, it wasn't Cotto NOT doing things, it was Manny adapting, or better yet, settling down and letting his natural ability take over.

There's also an old saying in the gym as well.

"You can put the smartest chicken in a cage with the dumbest wolf, the chicken is still going to get eaten"

In this case, the wolf's appetite couldn't be denied.

No doubt, any job that involves teaching, which is essentially what a trainer does, requires a tremendous amount of patience to do well. In any endeavor, great participants very often don't make the best coaches. Teaching is about communication. Some people have all kinds of knowledge in their heads but can't express it in a usable way. Even then, the very best have talents that often can't be explained or transferred to someone else.

In any event, I would still appreciate an answer to my initial question: "What you would have advised your fighter to do against Manny in that fight?"

[S A M U R A I]

I'm bored at work Sam. Let em *****. I got **** to do til 5.

Just standing up for a friend, that's all. You're accused of being a Cotto "hater" (yawn) by someone who's been here only since September and doesn't know what the **** he is talking about.



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