Joe Santiago told Cotto after the first round..

[CubanGuyNYC]

You can't really look into that because I'm a trainer and I have cornered many fights and I'm sure if you quote me in the corner you won't find telling words.

You go over strategy in the gym, that's where the game plan comes into play. Of course you have to adapt on the fly but I just think watching this fight, Cotto was out manned.

He came out, had a great strategy and still got dominated after the 4th. He was throwing the jab, he was trying to get inside to throw the body shots and still was beaten to the punch.

Sometimes you have to say, "The other man was better". I understand people on here being Monday morning quarterbacks but in reality, Cotto couldn't do much to change the ass whoopin he was about to receive.

Common mistakes in what he could have done:

#1 - "He should have thrown the jab more!" Really? Even in the face of the right check hook that was landing at will? Followed by the devastating left hand...

#2 - "He should have gone to the body more!" How could he when every time he got close he was getting devastated by straight shots? He couldn't match the foot speed of Pacman and that's what game him tons of problems.

#3 - "He should have used his physical strength more." Again, how can you use your physical strength when you can't move him backwards and when you do hit him, he looks at you and smiles...



Bottom line I can understand these excuses if Cotto was somewhat competitive, he wasn't. By the 4th round it was over.

Cotto is still a good fighter but he can't beat Pac, Mayweather, Margarito or P. Williams.

I agree 100% that fights are won and lost in the gym. There’s an old proverb: “Easy training, hard combat; hard training, easy combat.” Many times, in the heat of the moment, and in the face of adversity, a fighter will lose sight of what he’s worked on. But, wouldn’t you agree that part of the trainer’s job is to get his fighter back on track, to remind him of the game plan, in addition to making adjustments along the way?

You and I agree that Cotto was in against a better man. But does that mean, as a trainer, you just throw your hands up and say, “Sorry, kid, tonight’s not your night. Just try not to get killed”? From all accounts, Joe Santiago didn’t have anything meaningful to say to Miguel. He should have at least tried.

I was watching the Mayweather-Judah fight on Youtube, yesterday. By the second half of the fight, it was clear, IMO, that there was nothing anyone could do, including Zab, to turn the tide. Say what you will, but Judah’s trainer was trying his utmost to get Zab back into the fight. I half expected him to knock HIMSELF out as he feverishly demonstrated to Zab what he ought to be doing. (It was actually quite funny.)

We agree that Pacquiao was the better man against Cotto. With that in mind, I’d like to ask you, as an experienced trainer, what you would have advised your fighter to do against Manny in that fight?

[Holliday]

Fight Isaac H for the IBF belt. Best choice for him. That blame the trainer **** is ******. Dude got his ass beat and ran the last 4 rds. I like Cotto but he done at the elite level.

I call Bs, you picked Clottey Over Cotto,Mayweather over Cotto, Margarito Over Cotto and if Cotto didn't Ko pac b4 6 Pacquiao Over Cotto.I would'bt be surprised if you picked Mosley over Cotto in there 1st fight.


you're not really a Cotto fan,be honest.So just because he was beaten by a great boxer he's done?

hahahahahaha

[MANGLER]

I call Bs, you picked Clottey Over Cotto,Mayweather over Cotto, Margarito Over Cotto and if Cotto didn't Ko pac b4 6 Pacquiao Over Cotto.I would'bt be surprised if you picked Mosley over Cotto in there 1st fight.


you're not really a Cotto fan,be honest.So just because he was beaten by a great boxer he's done?

hahahahahaha

I like Cotto. I just don't buy into the **** about him bein indestructible. Difference between bein a fan and a stan. I pick who I think will win, not who I want to win.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I agree 100% that fights are won and lost in the gym. There’s an old proverb: “Easy training, hard combat; hard training, easy combat.” Many times, in the heat of the moment, and in the face of adversity, a fighter will lose sight of what he’s worked on. But, wouldn’t you agree that part of the trainer’s job is to get his fighter back on track, to remind him of the game plan, in addition to making adjustments along the way?

You and I agree that Cotto was in against a better man. But does that mean, as a trainer, you just throw your hands up and say, “Sorry, kid, tonight’s not your night. Just try not to get killed”? From all accounts, Joe Santiago didn’t have anything meaningful to say to Miguel. He should have at least tried.

I was watching the Mayweather-Judah fight on Youtube, yesterday. By the second half of the fight, it was clear, IMO, that there was nothing anyone could do, including Zab, to turn the tide. Say what you will, but Judah’s trainer was trying his utmost to get Zab back into the fight. I half expected him to knock HIMSELF out as he feverishly demonstrated to Zab what he ought to be doing. (It was actually quite funny.)

We agree that Pacquiao was the better man against Cotto. With that in mind, I’d like to ask you, as an experienced trainer, what you would have advised your fighter to do against Manny in that fight?

I understand what you are saying but you want to know what hardest part of being a trainer is? It's not the sweaty smelly gym, the lack of pay or the fact you have to drive long distances sometimes to fights or gyms.

It's the PATIENCE you need. For example, the guy I study under, he has been involved in boxing for over 30 years, he's an ex pro himself and has all the right knowledge in his head.

The problem is, he has no patience....NONE. He's a screamer, a yeller. He curses you and puts you down. I have learned that with the kids today, that doesn't work. You need to treat each one individually.

When you are in the corner and you see your fighter not doing the things you went over in the gym 1000x's, nothing is more frustrating. I don't know what Santiago told Cotto in the corner, I don't know if he doesn't know much about boxing.

What I do know is that Cotto came out strong for 2 rounds. After that, it wasn't Cotto NOT doing things, it was Manny adapting, or better yet, settling down and letting his natural ability take over.

There's also an old saying in the gym as well.

"You can put the smartest chicken in a cage with the dumbest wolf, the chicken is still going to get eaten"

In this case, the wolf's appetite couldn't be denied.

[6Bound]

Bottom line I can understand these excuses if Cotto was somewhat competitive, he wasn't. By the 4th round it was over.

Cotto is still a good fighter but he can't beat Pac, Mayweather, Margarito or P. Williams.

Um i dont really think it was over. He landed a big uppercut on Pac in the 5th then staggard him with a left hook right on the chin..Yeah he lost and all but you make it seem as if he wasnt being competitive...


And some of you need to stop bringing up Margarito as if he wasnt busted doing something illegal and subsequently destroyed by Mosley..The man isnt even a factor anymore and i dont think he'll ever be the same anyway..

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Um i dont really think it was over. He landed a big uppercut on Pac in the 5th then staggard him with a left hook right on the chin..Yeah he lost and all but you make it seem as if he wasnt being competitive...


And some of you need to stop bringing up Margarito as if he wasnt busted doing something illegal and subsequently destroyed by Mosley..The man isnt even a factor anymore and i dont think he'll ever be the same anyway..

What ***in fight were you watching? LOL

Dude, it was a destruction, plain and simple. I mean Cotto landed some shots but he never seriously hurt Pacman, he was target practice.

It was a lopsided ass whoopin. After the 4th the fight was over and even Cotto's father wanted it stopped about the 8th round. Cotto himself said he couldn't go on and wanted to quit in the 10th but his corner talked him out of it.

It was NOT competative.

[str8balln]

and you all say pac's acting skills are ****ty.

lol pac's acting skills is EMMY worthy.

helped him make cotto think he's doin absolutely nuthin to the guy.

that messes up ur psyche.

[hdogg]

Simply put Pacquiao was the better fighter. I am a huge fan of Cotto but it seemed like he threw the game plan out the window and committed one of the cardinal sins of boxing which is to follow a puncher around. I would have liked to see him try to fight the entire fight the way he did the first round. I'm not saying he would've won but the fight would have been more competitive. I felt that after the second knockdown the fight was completely one sided.

That being said I think Cotto has 2 or 3 good fights left in him. Don't be surprised if the runner Gayweather doesn't try to make a fight with Cotto now after side stepping him for years.

[6Bound]

What ***in fight were you watching? LOL

Dude, it was a destruction, plain and simple. I mean Cotto landed some shots but he never seriously hurt Pacman, he was target practice.

It was a lopsided ass whoopin. After the 4th the fight was over and even Cotto's father wanted it stopped about the 8th round. Cotto himself said he couldn't go on and wanted to quit in the 10th but his corner talked him out of it.

It was NOT competative.

I addressed what you said and pointed out round 5 which you should go re-watch maybe..Pac was clearly staggard by a lefthook. I checked different versions of the fight for different angles and it was clear..Even the commentators from every single version saw it clearly..

And how come you didnt adress what i said about Margarito?

[Pounding]

I like Cotto. I just don't buy into the **** about him bein indestructible. Difference between bein a fan and a stan. I pick who I think will win, not who I want to win.

Common Mangler everyone knows you a silent Cotto hater.