Joe Santiago told Cotto after the first round..

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Exactly. Every fighter deserves protection. Pride? **** that! What about his life? What about his kids who won't want to see their father in a wheelchair unable to even speak to them? What about the wife he'd be destroying the soul of, should anything bad happen to him?

I hate boxing's macho side, I really do. This is the most brutal sport in the world. There's no reason for unnecessary beatings.

Have to disagree with you on this one.

When interviewed for the Mayweather fight, Marquez said he is willing to die in the ring that Saturday night. Now most would dismiss that as just "macho" talk as you put it. I know he meant every word.

Boxing is the most brutal sport in the world, in that there's not doubt. We see it with the amount of deaths every single year, no other sport can claim that.

If you as a fighter, don't have the mentality that you are invincible, that you can't be beat, you shouldn't be a fighter and are not a fighter. Every single fighter that has stepped into the ring believe he can win every fight, if he didn't he wouldn't be in there.

So the question is, when should a fighter quit? If I say never, you will then call me macho and say it's all bull****. I say a fighter should never quit because that's not his job or should even be in his mind to quit.

So what separates boxing from dog fighting or **** fighting then..right? The referee, the athletic commission, the judges and the corner.

Any fighter who has ever been seriously hurt in a boxing match, has been so because of chance (his body just can't take it) or because of negligence.

It's the job of the corner, referee to protect the fighter. Santiago should have stopped the fight, the ref should have stopped the fight. There should be no quit in Cotto.

Call it macho or whatever you want but until you have been in the ring or seen what these men have gone through, you can't understand it. It's the same way a race car driver or football player don't worry about death or serious injury because once you do, you aren't strong enough to do what you do anymore.

[S A M U R A I]

again if I say I'm a pacquiao fan but root against him

diaz over pacquiao
marquez over pacquiao
hatton over pacquiao
de la hoya over pacquiao
cotto over pacquiao
morales over pacquiao
barerra over pacquiao

(fights he's been in) am I a fan

even though I know he's capable of beating everybody on the list? and dislike his opponents and know they will lose? but still pic them to beat pacquiao

am I still a fan

you keep on bringing up tyson when did i say Cotto can beats everyone sam?

everyone knows you're a pacquiao stan

Kill yourself.



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[MANGLER]

if 5 people are calling you a hater and it obvious you are,are we all lying

what if you like only 1 fighter? you always picked against cotto even though he was capable of winning.so you're a fan of everyone cotto's faces hahah

you make me laugh you must be a fan of everyone cotto faces cause you always root for them to beat him

but wait you're a cotto fan

I just posted my past Cotto picks a minute ago. i ain't pick against him in every fight. And FFS, pickin against him ain't teh smae as rootin against him. I picked him to beat Pac but rooted for Pac. I recanted my Clottey pick and picked him to win but was still rootin for Clottey. That's it.

If you truly believe I'm hatin on Cotto, then no, it don't make you a liar for sayin so. It just makes you wrong and ******.

"Mayweather KO Cotto if they ever fight" How many times you said that? Common Mayweather could not KO a lightweight for god sake and it took 11 rounds to KO Hatton a guy it took 2 rounds for Pacquiao to KO.

I've explained in detail why I thought Mr boat buyer would KO Cotto. I've said it many times and stick to it. Mr boat buyer coulda KO'd JMM, he just didn't try to. He carried him. And Pac at 140 and Mr boat buyer at 147 are 2 different style matchups for Hatton homey.

[Holliday]

"Mayweather KO Cotto if they ever fight" How many times you said that? Common Mayweather could not KO a lightweight for god sake and it took 11 rounds to KO Hatton a guy it took 2 rounds for Pacquiao to KO.

be carefull pounding they mangler and sam have to back each other up

yep mangler said that its obvious he's not a cott fan he's hiding the truth will set you free mangler

he's a hater

[MANGLER]

Check this quote by Mangler on Iceta profile page



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be carefull pounding they mangler and sam have to back each other up

yep mangler said that its obvious he's not a coot fan

Yep. I said it and meant it. And what's this got to do wit Sam? This is my thread not his.

[Pounding]

I've explained in detail why I thought Mr boat buyer would KO Cotto. I've said it many times and stick to it. Mr boat buyer coulda KO'd JMM, he just didn't try to. He carried him. And Pac at 140 and Mr boat buyer at 147 are 2 different style matchups for Hatton homey.

See you trying to make excuses for Mayweather! Is so ****ing obvious mangler just come out of the closet. be a ****ing man and admit your hate.

[Holliday]

Kill yourself.

Sam grow up please, why cant we argue like adults? why do I have to die

[S A M U R A I]

Have to disagree with you on this one.

When interviewed for the Mayweather fight, Marquez said he is willing to die in the ring that Saturday night. Now most would dismiss that as just "macho" talk as you put it. I know he meant every word.

Boxing is the most brutal sport in the world, in that there's not doubt. We see it with the amount of deaths every single year, no other sport can claim that.

If you as a fighter, don't have the mentality that you are invincible, that you can't be beat, you shouldn't be a fighter and are not a fighter. Every single fighter that has stepped into the ring believe he can win every fight, if he didn't he wouldn't be in there.

So the question is, when should a fighter quit? If I say never, you will then call me macho and say it's all bull****. I say a fighter should never quit because that's not his job or should even be in his mind to quit.

So what separates boxing from dog fighting or **** fighting then..right? The referee, the athletic commission, the judges and the corner.

Any fighter who has ever been seriously hurt in a boxing match, has been so because of chance (his body just can't take it) or because of negligence.

It's the job of the corner, referee to protect the fighter. Santiago should have stopped the fight, the ref should have stopped the fight. There should be no quit in Cotto.

Call it macho or whatever you want but until you have been in the ring or seen what these men have gone through, you can't understand it. It's the same way a race car driver or football player don't worry about death or serious injury because once you do, you aren't strong enough to do what you do anymore.

You've got me completely wrong.

I'm not saying the fighter should refuse to quit. Contrary, I admire fighters for not quitting and carry their warrior spirit. I am saying they need protection from their corner or from the referee, whether they want it or not. It's their job to protect a fighter's health. If they fail to do so, and allow him to be punished unnecessarily, I have no respect for them because they have failed as human beings due to lack of compassion. Similarly, I have no respect for any fan who thinks it's a bad thing for a fighter to quit or be pulled out by his corner.

By the way, how do you know if I've been in the ring or not? Don't make assumptions without knowing who I actually am.



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[MANGLER]

See you trying to make excuses for Mayweather! Is si ****ing obvious mangler just come out of the closet. be a ****ing man and admit your hate.

Makin excuses for what? For him stoppin Hatton later than Pac did? No excuse is necessary. It is what it is. Pac is a killer, Mr boat buyer is a boxer. Styles are different.

[Pounding]

Makin excuses for what? For him stoppin Hatton later than Pac did? No excuse is necessary. It is what it is. Pac is a killer, Mr boat buyer is a boxer. Styles are different.

Wha about Marquez? "He did not KO him because he didn't want too" "Cotto should be ashamed of himself if he does not KO Pacquiao in 6 rounds" "He look like a *****"

Is it me or I see double standars? Not once I saw you bitching and saying Mayweather should be ashamed if he does not KO Marquez! Not once but before the Cotto-Pacquiao fight that was all you posted on every thread!

Come out of the closet buddy!