Joe Santiago told Cotto after the first round..

[goldenglove2]

Cuz mentally and physically he can't fight at the top level no more.

um, because the best fighter in the word just beat him?

[MANGLER]

um, because the best fighter in the word just beat him?

No, cuz the best fighter in the world just beat the livin **** out of him, it ain't the 1st time he got beat up badly, and on the whole, mentally and physically he can't fight at the top level no more.

[goldenglove2]

No, cuz the best fighter in the world just beat the livin **** out of him, it ain't the 1st time he got beat up badly, and on the whole, mentally and physically he can't fight at the top level no more.

oh please.... how long you been watching boxing. he still beats Floyd, SSM, bERTO..etc....

[SplitSecond]

No, cuz the best fighter in the world just beat the livin **** out of him, it ain't the 1st time he got beat up badly, and on the whole, mentally and physically he can't fight at the top level no more.

completely disagree, cotto should have a couple of weeks off clear his mind, fight a tune-up, then a prospect and get himself into a fight with berto(if he wins against mosley which i think he will)

[MANGLER]

This is from some other thread I posted in before.

What's on the menu for Cotto now?

WW
Pac II
Marg II
SSM II
Clottey II
Mr boat buyer

JMW (titlists)
Spinks
Martinez
Dzindziruk
Foreman

Outta all these fights, which ones you see Cotto winnin at this point?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

In the middle rounds Joe was like "Come on fight smart!! You're smarter than that!! (then proceeds to rub Cotto's bald head in a frustrated manner)". That's all the advice Joe had for him that round. He never gave him any type of technical advice other than "use that jab" through out that fight, he wasn't correcting Cotto's mistakes. Roach was right.

Joe Santiago contributed more to that loss than Cotto did.

You can't really look into that because I'm a trainer and I have cornered many fights and I'm sure if you quote me in the corner you won't find telling words.

You go over strategy in the gym, that's where the game plan comes into play. Of course you have to adapt on the fly but I just think watching this fight, Cotto was out manned.

He came out, had a great strategy and still got dominated after the 4th. He was throwing the jab, he was trying to get inside to throw the body shots and still was beaten to the punch.

Sometimes you have to say, "The other man was better". I understand people on here being Monday morning quarterbacks but in reality, Cotto couldn't do much to change the ass whoopin he was about to receive.

Common mistakes in what he could have done:

#1 - "He should have thrown the jab more!" Really? Even in the face of the right check hook that was landing at will? Followed by the devastating left hand...

#2 - "He should have gone to the body more!" How could he when every time he got close he was getting devastated by straight shots? He couldn't match the foot speed of Pacman and that's what game him tons of problems.

#3 - "He should have used his physical strength more." Again, how can you use your physical strength when you can't move him backwards and when you do hit him, he looks at you and smiles...



Bottom line I can understand these excuses if Cotto was somewhat competitive, he wasn't. By the 4th round it was over.

Cotto is still a good fighter but he can't beat Pac, Mayweather, Margarito or P. Williams.

[goldenglove2]

This is from some other thread I posted in before.

What's on the menu for Cotto now?

WW
Pac II
Marg II
SSM II
Clottey II
Mr boat buyer

JMW (titlists)
Spinks
Martinez
Dzindziruk
Foreman

Outta all these fights, which ones you see Cotto winnin at this point?

Margo 2
Shane 2
Berto 1
Cintron 1
Boat bUYER 1
Clottey 2 w/o the head butt cut

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

This is from some other thread I posted in before.

What's on the menu for Cotto now?

WW
Pac II
Marg II
SSM II
Clottey II
Mr boat buyer

JMW (titlists)
Spinks
Martinez
Dzindziruk
Foreman

Outta all these fights, which ones you see Cotto winnin at this point?

Theres lots of factors Mang.



You have to wait and see if he changes trainers, how he looks in his tune ups. How he looks in his first challenge back,ect,ect,ect.

Cotto to me aint done, with poper adjustment and a good corner he still can claimb up to the top.

But he needs a new trainer and the willines to listen, if not he is doomed!!

[Pullcounter]

to "watch out for Manny's left, that's all he has "..or atleast that's what the interpreter says he said.

Did Joe not watch the Manny/Dela fight where Oscar's left eye was almost completely shut from Manny's right hand? Did he not watch the Hatton fight where Manny hurt and dropped Ricky in the first round with a right hand?

Cotto end's up getting dropped two rounds later w/a right hand. Freddie was right about Joe being green. Cotto , if he is gonna continue needs a new trainer. I say Papa Trrinidad..if he wants to stay with a PR..or possibly Goosen, Steward..

doesn't matter what santiago said, cotto would still get his butt whooped.

[MANGLER]

Margo 2
Shane 2
Berto 1
Cintron 1
Boat bUYER 1
Clottey 2 w/o the head butt cut

If Berto gets beat by SSM, the fight is possible. I left him off cuz that possibility ain't likely. Dibella would take an easy option for Berto comin off a loss to SSM.

Left Cintron off cuz he got no belt at the moment. That fight is winnable at WW. At JMW Cintron KO's him.

SSM, Marg, Clottey, and Mr boat buyer would beat him.