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  • #51
    Pacquiao is far too high. ~25 would be better IMO.

    Hopkins is also far too high and why Mayweather is above Monzon and McCallum beats me. Both were technically excellent and have better resumes.

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    • #52
      The Top 4 is the same as me. But everything else is pretty different and the order. Pac is not higher than Willie Pepp, Gans, Greb etc. I do have Pac at top 25.

      Rating the pre 20th century and even bare knuckle fighters is difficult. But how can Tucan Mcginty make it and guys like John Sullivan, NonPareil Dempsey, Kid Mccoy, Professor Donavan, Jack Macudliffe, Jack Choynski not make it? There is alot of more info on some of those late 1800's fighters and bare knuckle guys than Tucan.

      Even though Joffre lost to Harada his slot at #83 is too low.

      I would say about half of the guys in your list make my top 100 and some others make it between 101-200.

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      • #53
        Pacquiao is not a top 10 fighter, let alone top 5. It's kind of ridiculous to rank him ahead of fighters who fought and beat the better competition.

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        • #54
          scanning the list for sven ottke.....................nope not there list irrelevant.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            scanning the list for sven ottke.....................nope not there list irrelevant.
            I have Ottke more like top 200. The problem is that Boxing since the Modern Rules goes back like 120 years and there are now 17 weight classes. Ottke is one of the best SMW but never fought guys like Calzaghe, Nunn, Jones JR, Hopkins etc. He did beat glenn johnson, Reid, Mitchell- but not even one win against a Hall of Famer. So it puts an asterik on his undefeated record and he only fought in one weight class.

            The list dosent include old school fighters like Louis Kaplan who had wins against Billy Petroele, Pancho Villa, and Battling Battalino. I did wish Ottke did fight more.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by street bully View Post
              You could say pacquiao is top 20 or top 25, but top 10 is just wrong, let alone top 5. Saying that he enters top ten if he beats Mayweather.
              and id put mayweather on that list if he fights opponents that could potentially

              beat him just like pac has been doing ever since. facing risky situations.

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              • #57
                Bernard Hopkin no 23, wow

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by PACHUGGER View Post
                  Top 100 all time greatest boxers in history!


                  100 ATG boxers in history as voted by the P.H.
                  Does any one of you have their personal list of 100 greatest boxers in history. please post it here as a comparison or check on my list..

                  Like it or not,I'll post my rankings..


                  1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                  2. Muhammad Ali
                  3. Henry Armstrong
                  4. Joe Louis
                  5. Manny Pacquiao
                  6. Sam Langford
                  7. Ezzard Charles
                  8. Willie Pep
                  9. Sugar Ray Leonard
                  10. Archie Moore
                  11. Jack Johnson
                  12. Benny Leonard
                  13. Roberto Duran
                  14. Pernell Whitaker
                  15. Harry Greb
                  16. Jimmy Wilde
                  17. Roy Jones Jr.
                  18. Bob Fitzsimmons
                  19. Marvin Hagler
                  20. George Foreman
                  21. Sandy Saddler
                  22. Julio Cesar Chavez
                  23. Bernard Hopkins
                  24. Mickey Walker
                  25. Rocky Marciano
                  26. Jack Dempsey
                  27. Lennox Lewis
                  28. Evander Holyfield
                  29. Gene Tunney
                  30. Alexis Arguello
                  31. Mike Tyson
                  32. Joe Gans
                  33. Barney Ross
                  34. Salvador Sanchez
                  35. Tony Canzoneri
                  36. Kid Gavilan
                  37. Ike Williams
                  38. Charley Burley
                  39. Joe Frazier
                  40. Emile Griffith
                  41. Larry Holmes
                  42. Thomas Hearns
                  43. Jimmy McLarnin
                  44. Ruben Olivares
                  45. Barbados Joe Walcott
                  46. Tommy Loughran
                  47. Michael Spinks
                  48. Jake LaMotta
                  49. **** Tiger
                  50. Jose Napoles
                  51. Fighting Harada
                  52. Panama Al Brown
                  53. Manuel Ortiz
                  54. Tiger Flowers
                  55. Kid Chocolate
                  56. Bob Foster
                  57. Billy Conn
                  58. Wilfredo Gomez
                  59. Carlos Ortiz
                  60. Terry McGovern
                  61. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  62. Stanley Ketchel
                  63. Tommy Ryan
                  64. Carlos Monzon
                  65. Jim Jeffries
                  66. Jack Britton
                  67. Ted Kid Lewis
                  68. Carmen Basilio
                  69. Wilfred Benitez
                  70. Oscar De La Hoya
                  71. Felix Trinidad
                  72. Joe Brown
                  73. Aaron Pryor
                  74. Ricardo Lopez
                  75. Abe Attel
                  76. Shane Mosley
                  77. Carlos Zarate
                  78. Harry Wills
                  79. Tucan McGinty
                  80. Pancho Villa
                  81. Erik Morales
                  82. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
                  83. Marco Antonio Barrera
                  84. Eder Jofre
                  85. Pascual Perez
                  86. Miguel Canto
                  87. Joe Calzhaghe
                  88. Marcel Cerdan
                  89. Flash Elorde
                  90. Holman Williams
                  91. John Dundee
                  92. Benny Lynch
                  93. Antonio Cervantes
                  94. Azumah Nelson
                  95. Jimmy Bivins
                  96. Mike McCallum
                  97. Sonny Liston
                  98. Khaosai Galaxy
                  99. Myung Woo Yuh
                  100. James Toney










                  according to YOUR top 10.....the African American fighter is a bad dude!!.....Manny hasn't fought one either......coincidence?!?

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                  • #59
                    amazing list! good job ts!! really liked it and i think it's pretty accurate. pacquiao belongs in the top 5 for sure and amongst those big names, like several boxing experts have already said.

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                    • #60
                      Made a couple notable changes. More realistic just off the top of my head.


                      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                      2. Muhammad Ali
                      3. Henry Armstrong
                      4. Joe Louis
                      5. Willie Pep
                      6. Sam Langford
                      7. Ezzard Charles
                      8. Benny Leonard
                      9. Archie Moore
                      10. Jack Johnson
                      11. Sugar Ray Leonard
                      12. Roberto Duran
                      13. Pernell Whitaker
                      14.Harry Greb
                      15. Jimmy Wilde
                      16. Roy Jones Jr.
                      17. Bob Fitzsimmons
                      18.Marvin Hagler
                      19.George Foreman
                      20.Julio Cesar Chavez
                      21. Bernard Hopkins
                      22. Mickey Walker
                      23.Rocky Marciano
                      24.Jack Dempsey
                      25. Lennox Lewis
                      26. Evander Holyfield
                      27.Gene Tunney
                      28. Mike Tyson
                      29. Joe Gans
                      30. Alexis Arguello
                      31. Salvador Sanchez
                      32. Barney Ross
                      33. Sandy Saddler
                      34. Tony Canzoneri
                      35. Larry Holmes
                      36. Kid Gavilan
                      37. Ike Williams
                      38. Charley Burley
                      39. Joe Frazier
                      40. Emile Griffith
                      41. Manny Pacquiao
                      42. Thomas Hearns
                      43. Jimmy McLarnin
                      44. Ruben Olivares
                      45. Barbados Joe Walcott
                      46. Tommy Loughran
                      47. Michael Spinks
                      48. Jake LaMotta
                      49. **** Tiger
                      50. Jose Napoles
                      51. Fighting Harada
                      52. Panama Al Brown
                      53. Manuel Ortiz
                      54. Tiger Flowers
                      55. Kid Chocolate
                      56. Bob Foster
                      57. Billy Conn
                      58. Wilfredo Gomez
                      59. Carlos Ortiz
                      60. Terry McGovern
                      61. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                      62. Stanley Ketchel
                      63. Tommy Ryan
                      64. Carlos Monzon
                      65. Jim Jeffries
                      66. Jack Britton
                      67. Ted Kid Lewis
                      68. Carmen Basilio
                      69. Wilfred Benitez
                      70. Oscar De La Hoya
                      71. Felix Trinidad
                      72. Joe Brown
                      73. Aaron Pryor
                      74. Ricardo Lopez
                      75. Abe Attel
                      76. Shane Mosley
                      77. Carlos Zarate
                      78. Harry Wills
                      79. Tucan McGinty
                      80. Pancho Villa
                      81. Marco Antonio Barrera
                      82. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
                      83. Erik Morales
                      84. Eder Jofre
                      85. Pascual Perez
                      86. James Toney
                      87. Joe Calzhaghe
                      88. Marcel Cerdan
                      89. Flash Elorde
                      90. Holman Williams
                      91. John Dundee
                      92. Benny Lynch
                      93. Antonio Cervantes
                      94. Sonny Liston
                      95. Azumah Nelson
                      96. Jimmy Bivins
                      97. Miguel Canto
                      98. Mike McCallum
                      99. Khaosai Galaxy
                      100. Myung Woo Yuh

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