Should Pac's Camp Sue Floyd Sr?

[Killa_Kali]

again, i am of the position that manny is clean, based on existing evidence. where is the danger in suing if he does not use roids? the burden of proof lies on the shoulders of senior. he is the one who has to back up allegations.

[IMDAZED]

again, i am of the position that manny is clean, based on existing evidence. where the danger in suing if he does not use roids? the burden of proof lies on the shoulders of senior. he is the one who has to back up allegations.

Do you remember Jose Canseco? The burden of proof lies with the state commissions who have abominable testing practices.

[Killa_Kali]

I don't put it past any fighter, particularly the top ones. Let's leave it at that.

i think it is highly irresponsible of you to "leave it at that." we have to deal with facts - not assumptions, opinions, conjectures.

[IMDAZED]

i think it is highly irresponsible of you to "leave it at that." we have to deal with facts - not assumptions, opinions, conjectures.

What are the facts to you?

[GlovesOfHaste]

Who believes anything Sr says anyway?

[Killa_Kali]

What are the facts to you?

see my previous post. manny undergoes tests for illegal performance enhancing substances before and after he fights. all have come up negative, ergo he doesnt use roids.

until other tests prove otherwise, i will acknowledge the nevada state commission's findings.

point 2. the burden of proof remains on the accuser, not the accused.

in senior's case, he should prove beyond reasonable doubt that pac is juiced. in pac's camp's case, if they sue through a civil lawsuit, they should do so likewise and prove that senior violated existing libel and oral defamation laws.

[IMDAZED]

see my previous post. manny undergoes tests for illegal performance enhancing substances before and after he fights. all have come up negative, ergo he doesnt use roids.

until other tests prove otherwise, i will acknowledge the nevada state commission's findings.

point 2. the burden of proof remains on the accuser, not the accused.

in senior's case, he should prove beyond reasonable doubt that pac is juiced. in pac's camp's case, if they sue through a civil lawsuit, they should do so likewise and prove that senior violated existing libel and oral defamation laws.

Two things:

1. The NSAC don't test for most steroids/PEDs. The test itself is dated and it's scheduling is laughable. The only reason why a James Toney got caught, for instance, was because his fight was moved up and he couldn't cycle out. People who work for the NSAC have openly admitting that their testing methods are embarassing. Evander Holyfield till this day has never tested positive.

2. If Freddie/Manny wants to sue Mayweather Sr., chances are that they would end up having to subject Manny to a host of tests. They threatened to sue before but I think it was just threats.

[djteo]

he's still bitter after the ricky hatton loss, sr. just can't accept defeat. the old man is the epitome of a sore loser.

[nailzfan]

Two things:

1. The NSAC don't test for most steroids/PEDs. The test itself is dated and it's scheduling is laughable. The only reason why a James Toney got caught, for instance, was because his fight was moved up and he couldn't cycle out. People who work for the NSAC have openly admitting that their testing methods are embarassing. Evander Holyfield till this day has never tested positive.

2. If Freddie/Manny wants to sue Mayweather Sr., chances are that they would end up having to subject Manny to a host of tests. They threatened to sue before but I think it was just threats.

My thoughts exactly. Boxing would be a very easy sport to use steroids and not get caught, since you know when the testing is coming. I've always assumed that Evander uses hgh or some equivalent.

[Killa_Kali]

Two things:

1. The NSAC don't test for most steroids/PEDs. The test itself is dated and it's scheduling is laughable. The only reason why a James Toney got caught, for instance, was because his fight was moved up and he couldn't cycle out. People who work for the NSAC have openly admitting that their testing methods are embarassing. Evander Holyfield till this day has never tested positive.

2. If Freddie/Manny wants to sue Mayweather Sr., chances are that they would end up having to subject Manny to a host of tests. They threatened to sue before but I think it was just threats.

Nevada sports body clears Pacman of steroids use
abs-cbnNEWS.com | 09/19/2009 1:54 AM


MANILA -- No less than the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), which is the preeminent state sports body in the US, has cleared Manny Pacquiao of steroids claims made by controversial boxing trainer Floyd Mayweather, Sr.

“All I can tell you is that Pacquiao, every time he's fought here [in Nevada, has] been tested, as well as his opponents,” said NSAC executive director Keith Kaiser.

“He passed every drug test we did to him, every steroid test we did to him,” he added to counter allegations made by Mayweather Sr. that Pacquiao was into performance enhancement drugs.

Kaiser stressed that the NSAC conducts stringent drug tests on boxers before allowing them to fight within the jurisdiction of Nevada.

“[On] title fights [we have] tests for steroids and drug abuse. [We look out for] marijuana, *******,” said Kaiser. “We collect urine [for tests] before and after the fight.”

Pacquiao’s coach, Freddie roach, said a slander case is already in the works against Mayweather Sr.

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