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I've already responded to this. The NSAC tests are a joke. Their own board members admit this. -
Shouldn't bother, suing Floyd Sr. just gives him an outlet and credibility. Ignoring him makes him look like what he is: a delusional crackhead.Comment
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Why? What if I told you that they told me in person?Originally posted by killakali View Post
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There are also articles from NSAC members, including former heads, who have complained about how bad the testing is. And it's bad. I'll look for it for you.Comment
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I hope you get articles pertaining to the past decade of NSAC--not from the 80s and 90sOriginally posted by IMDAZED View PostComment
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From s-e-c-o-n-d-s-o-u-t- . com:
In the infamous tell-all, Juice, Jose Canseco writes, "Steroids, used correctly, will not only make you stronger and sexier, they will also make you healthier. Steroids will give you a better quality of life and also drastically slow down the aging process.”
The former Bash Brother hasn’t exactly drawn praise for his integrity but his best-seller did help blow the lid off a scandal that’s far from simmered. From Barry Bonds to Carl Lewis, accusations (and evidence) have been tossed around like Frisbees. Lost in the finger-pointing is the issue Canseco raises: Properly used, do performance-enhancing drugs create better, healthier athletes?
One look at the list of offenders – those caught red-handed and others who confessed – suggests many top athletes have dabbled in these new school “uppers.” For the most part, boxing’s drug habit has flown under the radar. But numbers don’t lie: Frans Botha, Roy Jones Jr., Fernando Vargas and James Toney are some of the bigger names who’ve tested positive. Retired heavyweights Tommy Morrison and Bob Hazelton have admitted use. Shane Mosley was the only boxer called to testify before a grand jury in the BALCO scandal; a southern Cali outfit famous for its designer enhancers—sweet science, indeed.
Complicating matters is the increasing popularity of Human Growth Hormone (HGH). Often called the "Fountain of Youth," it rapidly decreases injury recovery time and aids muscle gain. Because it’s produced by the body’s pituitary gland, it’s also hard to discern the percentage caused by natural emission and the amount taken externally. Not that it matters; while some applaud the sweet science for remaining a stripped-down, pure contest, the game’s medical practices belong in the Stone Age.
“Most states don’t test for steroids,” says Dr. Margaret Goodman, former Nevada Chief Ringside Physician and Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board. “In Nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In New Jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. If we’d do what’s done in the Olympics or what the World Anti-Doping Agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. But if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”
The smart ones cycle their drugs carefully, others opt for HGH. Vargas tested positive for Winstrol, an anabolic steroid known to increase strength without excess muscle gain. It may have helped his training but it didn’t do much for his chin. Toney claimed Nandrolone, the substance found in his system following the Ruiz bout, was a by-product of post-surgery meds for his torn biceps. Many sided with him; his roomy figure suggests the only thing he knowingly ingested were Big Macs. Or, as Toney said, “If I’m on steroids, every steroid company is going out of business.” We might have believed him – had he not tested positive a second time earlier this year.
“Part of the problem is that we rely too much on the visual,” says Dr. Goodman. “The purpose of steroids is not to put on weight or look muscular, it’s to help train more often and fend off injuries. But these fighters are just not believable; they know they’re getting something. There aren’t too many reasons why a fighter goes through changes in their physical appearance or in their ability to recover from an injury. That just doesn’t happen on its own.”
But is it wrong for an injured fighter to use steroids for quicker recovery? Doctors prescribe it for muscle tears, anemia and to help control breast cancer. Most sports emphasize the harmful side-effects: short-term use in men can cause acne, breast development, and a decrease of testosterone and ***** production. Masculine features such as facial hair growth are common in women. Both sexes are prone to fluid retention, increased irritability and aggression but for men, most of the short-term symptoms are reversible once he stops using. Women are subject to more permanent effects.
Studies on long-term use are, at best, questionable. While a dizzying amount of animal testing has been done, the number of human cases is negligible – and varies by lifestyle. Still, there have been incidents of liver damage, baldness, heart attacks, blood clots, violent behavior and premature death. In 1992, footballer Lyle Alzado, a two-time All-Pro died at 43 of a rare brain cancer. Alzado believed his steroid abuse and HGH led to the illness. His doctors vehemently deny this. There have been other cases of world-class athletes dying prematurely, most notably track and field star Florence Griffith-Joyner. However, it’s almost impossible to blame their deaths on banned substances. Would regulating a fighter’s usage decrease chances of negligible effects?
“As their career progresses, fighters fight less and less each year,” Dr. Goodman notes. “Their ‘doctors’ tell them they can avoid long-term effects by taking them for a fight instead of continually using them. The truth is, nobody knows how severe long-term side effects are because nobody wants to admit they’re using them. Studying its effects on humans is a very difficult thing to accomplish. But there’s a huge list of documented effects, severe ones.”
It’s estimated that one to three million U.S. athletes use steroids today, including over a half million high-schoolers. Clearly, the warnings in the media of deadly consequences were as impotent as the “Just Say No” campaign. By definition, all drugs are harmful if misused. Nevertheless, some manage to find 30 seconds of airtime between our reality shows. Most promise to make your life "normal" again; if it doesn’t cure you, the many side effects are bound to make you forget what your original problem was. Other drugs, such as steroids, are deemed too dangerous for the average Joe.
"The minute you ask boxing to do anything, it becomes a problem," Dr. Goodman states. "If we really want to clean up the sport, we need uniform testing for drugs, just like we do MRI testing. In organizations like the NFLPA or the MLBPA, they try to educate the athlete. No one spends time with the fighter doing that."
Forcing the different factions to reach an agreement without federal legislation, or even a national commission, may be impossible. Boxing’s unstructured hierarchy allows everyone to pass the buck (literally) – how do you ask a pug who makes $1000 a fight to pay the cost of a steroids test? Will the sanctioning bodies cough-up green to monitor someone training overseas? And, finally, what would stop a promoter from finding another jurisdiction for his card if the one he’s working demands he fork up the dough?
"In boxing, everything comes down to money and time," says Dr. Goodman. "It’s unfortunate but we can’t continue to ignore the problem and stick our heads in the sand - it’s unhealthy, unfair and it dangers the credibility of the sport."
In the end, the fighter must weigh the risks and make a choice. However, his decision doesn’t exempt state commissions, promoters and other parties from guilt. The lack of a collective steroid policy leaves boxing a step behind other sports—once again. While we play catch-up, the number of fighters who believe the benefits outweigh the consequences is rapidly increasing.Last edited by IMDAZED; 11-18-2009, 01:36 PM.Comment
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hello?
Killakali?
Rao?
Anything you want to say to refute the Head of the Nevada State Athletic Commission?Comment
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i was reading the fine print if pac's name was on it.Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
do you have any that says pac uses steroids? i would love to have that one.Comment
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Well there should be testing when fighters train--that's the best way. But in the end we still need evidence to accuse these athletes.
In a recent interview, Mayweather Sr. questioned only three fights of Pacquiao which are the the Oscar Delahoya, Hatton, and Cotto fight.
Ariza is the only person who monitors Pacquiao's diet, that's why I've been trying to find interviewers to get answers from Ariza.Comment
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