The Top 25 Welterweights of All-Time – Top Ten

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Yo! Where 'da freak is Money Maii!?

H8erz....

floyd doesn't deserve to be top 25.... he's only had about 5 fights at WW (1 of them against a blown up LW) and he's ducked the biggest challenges there.

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floyd doesn't deserve to be top 25.... he's only had about 5 fights at WW (1 of them against a blown up LW) and he's ducked the biggest challenges there.

At welter, Floyd has fought Sharmba, Judah, Baldo, Hatton, and Marquez.

Active Welters were not included in this list...that wouldn't get him included anyways.

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hows sugar ray leonard number 3. thats bull**** he lost to roberto duran who was a lightweight at the time. everybody killed floyd for fighting marquez who was the lightweight champion, while sugar ray lost to the lightweight champion when he was in his prime. pure politics.

if your dumb ass learns boxing you would not post anything like this. Duran was only 29 well in his prime years. Well...Duran unlike Jmm, also went on UP.. to win additional titles at higher weight classes in fact 13 pounds higher. Jmm never ever fought at 140 or 147, while duran when he faced leoanrd had 9 fights under his belt at welter, including a win over the great carlos palimino. So duran was a estabblished welter.

Please learn the facts before posting....

Also post the entire story he lost a very close deciion to duran when he fought purposely th wrong style, then immediately rematche and won.

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I'm pissed @ this list! How the hell is WHITAKER-18? HEARNS-11? LEONARD-3?????? LEONARD should have been 1, Whitaker SHOULD HAVE BEEN 2, and the over-rated ROBINSON should have been 3. Here's why. WHITAKER never lost in his PRIME and the only LEGIT loss came to Felix Trinidad when he was 33yrs. old. From a defensive standpoint, he is THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTER I EVER SEEN!! PERIOD! LEONARD is 1 of the top 5 ALL-TIME GREATS simply because he was just that damn GOOD! He didn't only outsmart opponents, he outsped them, outskilled them, outworked them, and he had underestimated POWER in both hands. He and WHITAKER would have beaten ROBINSON FOR SURE. ROBINSON got hit way to much and wasn't ATHELETIC enough to keep up with either one of these guys. Whoever compiled this list must have been from the ROBINSON ERA because WHITAKER @ 18 is just plane ******!!!!! NONE OF THE GUYS AHEAD OF HIM WOULD HAVE TOUCHED HIM IN THE RING!!!!!!!!! CHANGE THIS ****!

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I can't say that I disagree with this list..BUT,I would put my money on Leonard against any welterweight on this list.I don't think Robinson has ever faced someone with the same gifts that he had.But Robinson's record speaks for itself, he should be number 1.

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Duran being a lightweight when he fought Leonard has become one of the ******iest and most overused myths recently on boxing forums. Not up there with the "Hagler was a brawler" and Legendary Nights myths, but getting there.

People often make fun of "boxrec warriors". Well, some people aren't even smart enough to be called a "boxrec warrior", because if they did, they'd know that Duran had left 135 over two years earlier.

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Duran being a lightweight when he fought Leonard has become one of the ******iest and most overused myths recently on boxing forums. Not up there with the "Hagler was a brawler" and Legendary Nights myths, but getting there.

People often make fun of "boxrec warriors". Well, some people aren't even smart enough to be called a "boxrec warrior", because if they did, they'd know that Duran had left 135 over two years earlier.

Thank you... this so damm funny.this garbage people say about a lightweight being leonard....

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I'm pissed @ this list! How the hell is WHITAKER-18? HEARNS-11? LEONARD-3?????? LEONARD should have been 1, Whitaker SHOULD HAVE BEEN 2, and the over-rated ROBINSON should have been 3. Here's why. WHITAKER never lost in his PRIME and the only LEGIT loss came to Felix Trinidad when he was 33yrs. old. From a defensive standpoint, he is THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE FIGHTER I EVER SEEN!! PERIOD! LEONARD is 1 of the top 5 ALL-TIME GREATS simply because he was just that damn GOOD! He didn't only outsmart opponents, he outsped them, outskilled them, outworked them, and he had underestimated POWER in both hands. He and WHITAKER would have beaten ROBINSON FOR SURE. ROBINSON got hit way to much and wasn't ATHELETIC enough to keep up with either one of these guys. Whoever compiled this list must have been from the ROBINSON ERA because WHITAKER @ 18 is just plane ******!!!!! NONE OF THE GUYS AHEAD OF HIM WOULD HAVE TOUCHED HIM IN THE RING!!!!!!!!! CHANGE THIS ****!

I am the biggest leonard fan of all time. However, if he evven dreamed of fighting robinson at robinsons peak he would get literally destroyed and even Loenard himself says this.

I have watched tape after tape of Robinson, not only did he have the speed of leonard, but he hit 3 times harder and ray hit hard... He could throw 3 sizzling three punch combination that was a hard jab, altime hard right, then a even harder left hook...and this is not done periodicaly he was doing this vs all time greats at middleweight when he ws past his peak, and he could do this the entire fight. he had never ever in 200 plus fights been stopped except heat related stopped at light heavy...and they fought with gloves that allowed much more damage to be extolled on the fighter.

Robinson is the only welter I would pick over leonard, and so would any one else who ever saw him fight or his tapes. the guy was that freakin good.

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I am the biggest leonard fan of all time. However, if he evven dreamed of fighting robinson at robinsons peak he would get literally destroyed and even Loenard himself says this.

I have watched tape after tape of Robinson, not only did he have the speed of leonard, but he hit 3 times harder and ray hit hard... He could throw 3 sizzling three punch combination that was a hard jab, altime hard right, then a even harder left hook...and this is not done periodicaly he was doing this vs all time greats at middleweight when he ws past his peak, and he could do this the entire fight. he had never ever in 200 plus fights been stopped except heat related stopped at light heavy...and they fought with gloves that allowed much more damage to be extolled on the fighter.

Robinson is the only welter I would pick over leonard, and so would any one else who ever saw him fight or his tapes. the guy was that freakin good.

I don't think anyone at Welter destroys Leonard. Robinson could have beat him, but it would have been hell and could have made for a solid series of bouts. Kid Gavilan didn't really do anything better than Leonard and he was very competitive with Rob.

And why is Rob the only Welter you'd pick over him...Duran was a Welter and beat Leonard in real time.

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By Cliff Rold - For any new boxing fan, the time is not long before a fellow fan points out a magic number which grows more mythologized with time: eight. As in boxing’s original eight weight classes. The number represents in the mind of many a time when the sport was compressed into fields which couldn’t help but be talented, couldn’t help but draw crowds, because there were so few places on the scale to go. They were divisions marked by single champions ever challenged by a depth of contenders today’s seventeen weight classes rarely know. [details]

Hearns is too low in my opinion. People forget how destructive he was at weltterweight. He could box and take fighters out with one punch. If it was not for Ray Leonard, he probably would have never lost there.