Mayweather-Pacquiao: Both Sides Taking Hard Lines

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  • GRUSTLER
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    #71
    Originally posted by PAKYO
    PAC WILL FIGHT AT 147, THAT'S A FACT!

    It's not Freddy who's gonna be in the ring do you really think Roach can impose his will on it if Pac wants it?

    Pac is not scared, he just said it he will fight anyone as long as it is in the range of 147 and below.

    It is floyd who is not gonna make it happen doing this primadonna toilet paper dance.
    OK, so if Pacquiao wants it to be at 147 and will fight at 147 then how
    come he hasn't done it for yet against Cotto? and now their not trying
    to do it against Floyd? Why is Roach telling Manny what weight he should
    fight at? It's Manny's career and legacy. The reason he listens to Roach
    is because Roach is his trainer and knows Pac's limitations. Why doesn't
    Pac just come out and say "Hey Roach! I will take the fight at 147 to
    prove to the fans, Floyd and the world that I am truly the better fighter"?
    Pac fought De La Hoya at 147 but not Floyd? Pac shouldn't have NO
    problems at 147, or will he and that's why he didn't fight Cotto there
    at now Mayweather? Roach knew De La Hoya was shot, he said it.
    Roach also said that he would make Floyd come down to 144 to take any
    advantage Floyd has over Pac and I will post the video with the time
    ini a minute. You guys are bugging thinking Pac is that great and won't
    commit to 147 but holds a title there? PLEASE! And Floyd is supposed
    to be scared? Ha ha ha! Seems like Roach and Manny are the ones
    that are scared........ 50/50, 147, make it happen.

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    • PAKYO
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      #72
      Originally posted by leonthegee
      then why even ask for the fight at 145?
      Did Pac asked for it? Nope, it's just a leverage to make floyd agree on a 50/50.

      Pac's side might accept a 60/40 as long as floyd goes down to 145 or 143 with a penalty of 3m per pound over it and since we all know floyd, even if he'll sign it, he will not go down to that weight and cheat thus he'll pay for it so it would still even out to 50/50.

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        #73
        Originally posted by baracuda
        yeah we were awakened when cotto destroyed pac like you predicted.....
        But if you also been reading my posts, you would have also seen that
        I gave Pac an edge too and been back and forth about it. The reason
        I can't fully commit to Pac is because I see his flaws and thought Cotto
        had what it took to expose them but he didn't, so what, Pac won but
        Cotto did have a shot but mentally broke down. Floyd is a different
        story, he will beat Pac period, tell Pac to go to 147 and prove he can
        truly beat Floyd. People say Floyd never fought a challenge at 147
        but neither has Pacquiao because De La Hoya was dead at that weight
        and Cotto was 145. The difference is all the guys Floyd fought were at 147. Props to Pac for spanking him but the truth is
        the truth.

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          #74
          Originally posted by PAKYO
          Did Pac asked for it? Nope, it's just a leverage to make floyd agree on a 50/50.

          Pac's side might accept a 60/40 as long as floyd goes down to 145 or 143 with a penalty of 3m per pound over it and since we all know floyd, even if he'll sign it, he will not go down to that weight and cheat thus he'll pay for it so it would still even out to 50/50.
          Talking about Floyd and his fans are making excuses.....Sheeeesh.

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            #75
            Originally posted by baracuda
            yeah we were awakened when cotto destroyed pac like you predicted.....
            grus also picked hatton to win against PACQUIAO!

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            • PAKYO
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              #76
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              OK, so if Pacquiao wants it to be at 147 and will fight at 147 then how
              come he hasn't done it for yet against Cotto? and now their not trying
              to do it against Floyd? Why is Roach telling Manny what weight he should
              fight at? It's Manny's career and legacy. The reason he listens to Roach
              is because Roach is his trainer and knows Pac's limitations. Why doesn't
              Pac just come out and say "Hey Roach! I will take the fight at 147 to
              prove to the fans, Floyd and the world that I am truly the better fighter"?
              Pac fought De La Hoya at 147 but not Floyd? Pac shouldn't have NO
              problems at 147, or will he and that's why he didn't fight Cotto there
              at now Mayweather? Roach knew De La Hoya was shot, he said it.
              Roach also said that he would make Floyd come down to 144 to take any
              advantage Floyd has over Pac and I will post the video with the time
              ini a minute. You guys are bugging thinking Pac is that great and won't
              commit to 147 but holds a title there? PLEASE! And Floyd is supposed
              to be scared? Ha ha ha! Seems like Roach and Manny are the ones
              that are scared........ 50/50, 147, make it happen.
              Frankly speaking?

              COTTO IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN FLOYD EVER IS!

              COTTO >>> FLOYD (who got no balls)

              Floyd he can take at 147 just like as DLH was.

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              • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                #77
                Originally posted by mangler
                Cosign homey.
                I say they should put the money where their mouths are. They are both well more so one than the other claiming to be the best right? P4P creame della creame well then put the extra 15-20% on it. Go either 40-40 and the winner gets the pie or go 45-45 and the winner gets the pie. The gate well we know all the Manny fans are going to be at what ever venue they choose to hold this fight at. Floyd never puts fans in the seats he may get a group of people to spring for $50 and watch it at a gathering but Manny has people drive cross country to shake his hand at the Wild Card and take pictures while he wraps his hands. Manny is the draw here I think people just want to see someone punch Floyds mouth loose. People would watch Manny put his socks on in the morning before they would want to see Floyd fight a stiff....Lefty

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                • GRUSTLER
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                  #78
                  This is why Roach wants Catchweight specifically for Floyd.....

                  Check time 5:50


                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 11-19-2009, 06:16 AM.

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                  • REMOVED SHARK 97
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                    #79
                    How can you say 143-145 catchweight isn't fair?

                    He fought Marquez at that weight, or was susposed to.

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PAKYO
                      Frankly speaking?

                      COTTO IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN FLOYD EVER IS!

                      COTTO >>> FLOYD (who got no balls)

                      Floyd he can take at 147 just like as DLH was.
                      OK, so your saying that Miguel Cotto would be more dangerous than
                      Floyd Mayweather Jr? So how come Freddie Roach needs more time
                      to prepare and teach Manny a new style to approach Floyd? I thought
                      Cotto's power would play a factor but Manny proved me wrong
                      BIGTIME, so we know the way to beat Manny is not power, it's defense,
                      counter punching and footwork and I should of known that from JMM.
                      Floyd has all that but just on an advance level. No way Cotto would
                      have EVER beat Floyd, don't care if he fought him or not.

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