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  • Bushidō
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    #21
    Originally posted by tredh
    The greatest trick Manny has played on us is that he has convinced everyone that he is small. What we forget is that he made 112 back when he was 15 or 16 and was a malnourished street kid. He isn't that anymore he has grown into the body of a small welter ala Zab Judah or Miguel Cotto.

    I agree with Nasim here because and this not just for Manny but all fighters. I am sorry if you weigh in at whatever weight and by fight night you have put on 10-15+ pounds that to me means you really need to be fighting at a different weight IMO. Manny did do this he has weighed in for fights at 130 and came in to the ring 142+ and at 135 came into the ring I believe at 145 or 148 not sure which.

    While I not being a big Pacman fan has to give him his due. I have to admit it is hard for me to think of him as a great fighter when I see flaws that should be exposed. But something has to be said for a man with easily seen flaws but no one so far can do anything about those flaws so he has to get my respect in that aspect. The dude can fight!!!!

    If the PBF fight gets made willing to bet all of my points on PBF!!!!!
    A lot of people don't agree with me but it seems like you do. I feel like Pacquiao was always the bigger man until he went to 135. I think he had issues with his weight at times and thats why he had some lackluster performances like vs Lario and Barrera 2. ****m also said that people calling Pacquiao small welterweight is the same as calling Mike Tyson a small heavyweight.

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    • RingTech01
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      #22
      8000 calories a day?? that'd be extremely hard to do and would seem unnecessary.

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        #23
        Originally posted by tredh
        Never said PBF didn't have flaws but the difference is many of the ATG greats flaws were not so obvious. The point I really was trying to make in agreeing with Nasim is that Manny starting at 106 should really be thrown out of the window. Its not like he started at 106 when he was 20 something yrs old. He was boy then and he is a man now. LOL at some of yall assuming I thought or felt that recognized ATG's didn't have flaws. Miss me with that one!!

        WTF happened to all my points? I was gone for a really long time come back damn near all of my points are missing!!!!!!!
        Put your points in the bank and you shouldn't have that problem. It takes about 10 seconds to do.

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          #24
          8000 calories a day?? that'd be extremely hard to do and would seem unnecessary.
          That's only while he's training. And with how hard he works in the gym, that's about right.

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            #25
            Originally posted by rabad
            That's only while he's training. And with how hard he works in the gym, that's about right.
            you ever work out and maintain a high calorie diet? the suitable calorie intake for mass/strength training is 3000 calories. it's very unlikely for someone to remain 142 pounds while consuming 8000 calories a day. that's more than double the optimum calorie intake for bodybuilders. not to mention, sometimes eating 3000 calories a day you have to set specific times to work out or you may feel like throwing up during exercise. 8000 calories a day and pac would be a couch potato, probably wouldn't be able train properly.
            Last edited by RingTech01; 11-17-2009, 01:13 PM.

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              #26
              even manny knows he has flaws, thats y he's always learning and a student of the game.. he even said himself he's not that good lol, which I find funny

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                #27
                Originally posted by RingTech01
                8000 calories a day?? that'd be extremely hard to do and would seem unnecessary.
                Originally posted by RingTech01
                you ever work out and maintain a high calorie diet? the suitable calorie intake for mass/strength training is 3000 calories. it's very unlikely for someone to remain 142 pounds while consuming 8000 calories a day. that's more than double the optimum calorie intake for bodybuilders. not to mention, sometimes eating 3000 calories a day you have to set specific times to work out or you may feel like throwing up during exercise. 8000 calories a day and pac would be a couch potato, probably couldn't train properly.
                Michael Phelps consumes 12000 calories and still has a hard time maintaining weight. 8000 is about right. Boxing is not the same as bodybuilding.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  The greatest trick Manny has played on us is that he has convinced everyone that he is small. What we forget is that he made 112 back when he was 15 or 16 and was a malnourished street kid. He isn't that anymore he has grown into the body of a small welter ala Zab Judah or Miguel Cotto.

                  I agree with Nasim here because and this not just for Manny but all fighters. I am sorry if you weigh in at whatever weight and by fight night you have put on 10-15+ pounds that to me means you really need to be fighting at a different weight IMO. Manny did do this he has weighed in for fights at 130 and came in to the ring 142+ and at 135 came into the ring I believe at 145 or 148 not sure which.

                  While I not being a big Pacman fan has to give him his due. I have to admit it is hard for me to think of him as a great fighter when I see flaws that should be exposed. But something has to be said for a man with easily seen flaws but no one so far can do anything about those flaws so he has to get my respect in that aspect. The dude can fight!!!!

                  If the PBF fight gets made willing to bet all of my points on PBF!!!!!
                  All fighters have flaws. Manny is one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    The greatest trick Manny has played on us is that he has convinced everyone that he is small. What we forget is that he made 112 back when he was 15 or 16 and was a malnourished street kid. He isn't that anymore he has grown into the body of a small welter ala Zab Judah or Miguel Cotto.

                    I agree with Nasim here because and this not just for Manny but all fighters. I am sorry if you weigh in at whatever weight and by fight night you have put on 10-15+ pounds that to me means you really need to be fighting at a different weight IMO. Manny did do this he has weighed in for fights at 130 and came in to the ring 142+ and at 135 came into the ring I believe at 145 or 148 not sure which.

                    While I not being a big Pacman fan has to give him his due. I have to admit it is hard for me to think of him as a great fighter when I see flaws that should be exposed. But something has to be said for a man with easily seen flaws but no one so far can do anything about those flaws so he has to get my respect in that aspect. The dude can fight!!!!

                    If the PBF fight gets made willing to bet all of my points on PBF!!!!!
                    i don't know i saw manny fight in the lower weights, and he looked smaller or equal in size to barrera and morales....definitely was shorter than morales...

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                      #30
                      and phelps is a 6'4 200 pounder. you think a 142 pounder can remain that weight while consuming 8000 calories per day. maybe it's possible.

                      According to an article in The Guardian, Phelps eats around 12,000 kcal each day, or about six times the intake of a normal adult male.[32] Yet according to Michael Phelps in an interview with 60 Minutes, the estimate given by the Guardian is "not true"; he stated that he eats 8,000 to 10,000 calories a day when training.[33]

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