The best fighter of the last 20 years?

[Kagami Taiga]

resume trumps perceived talent and hypothetical p4p match ups. Resume you can measure.

In that case,

its clearly pac.

like i said before, idc about ur definition of best but to me, best =/= greatest. and at any rate, pernell whitaker is greater than pac, imo.

[res]

Pacquiao leading the poll is exactly right. That's just being truthful. Doesn't matter if Roy was "untouchable", you're talking about skills, not accomplishments, and skills don't really factor into ATG lists. It's what you achieve that makes you highly regarded, no matter if you're flawed.

I watched Roy in his prime, so for me it's nothing to do with being young. My introduction to boxing was Ali late in the 70's.

So what two young future Hall of Famers did Pacman take out?

[CHOWWOKKA]

So what two young future Hall of Famers did Pacman take out?

erm...That guy isn't going to reply back...He's kinda dead..

[Primera]

how he die?

[DLT]

how he die?

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[pbftxrs316]

like i posted a few years back, it's floyd---i gave an honset account as to why and it hasn't changed..he dominated mosley, like i said he would and i had it down to the tee with stats and everythig. p dub went and got himself ko'ed...and just fell off...manny is keeping himself away from floyd through bob arum and he will be dominated when they finally fight...berto lost to the guy floyd ko'ed, and was just caught with ped's in his system, even though it may not be his fault really, i don't know...

floyd is really the 9 time world champion because he beat mosley, who was the wbo of wba(i forgot) ww champion when he fought floyd, but floyd made the fight more about the fight and not the title...he has dominated champions...de la hoya, judah, baldomir, cotto, mosley, and ortiz to name some...oscar imo didn't win anymore than 3 rounds against him and the same goes for cotto, and floyd moved up to fight them both, not bring them down to catchweights....floyd has achieved the most while breaking compbox records and making the most money and remaining undefeated in the process...name any other fighter on that list that did that---not roy, who has lost so many times now, in his prime, he was great, but who did he fight really? he beat hopkins and toney....

he beat griffin and kelly....he beat ruiz...and then lost to tarver in the rematch and 3rd fight---lost to jonhson by ko...lost to joe c...lost to hopkins in the rematch...lost to a guy whose name i forgot in the 1st round....lost to a guy whose name i never attempted to learn, and was stopped by him in 10 rounds...jones has been ko'ed 4 times in the 2000 decade...and has lost 8 ***ing times---and i don't care if he was past his prime or not...he didn't hang up the boots, if still counts...

hopkins is past his prime and has won titles...floyd was past his prime once he left 140 lbs and has remained undefeated and has beaten 8 champions/former champions in a row---and yes i do count hatton and jmm because even though they were smaller, well hatton was bigger naturally, they had titles....and manny fought jmm at ww just like floyd did and looked so bad against him, and floyd trumped jmm----and now manny is making bradley come up in weight, just like floyd did with hatton, when hatton was undefeated...yet, hatton openly ducked floyd in 2004 and 2005 and some of 06...at 140, hatton didn't want to fight floyd and floyd can't force someone to fight him....hatton had a ww title also....

with all due respect to hopkins and sweet pea and even de la hoya, floyd has topped them all....it's not manny, it's floyd--look at when floyd fought these guys compared to when manny fought them, and the conditions of the fights---that's your answer right there--

manny loses to moralles and then fight him in a rematch after erik loses to rahim...many say he lost to jmm in the rematch and 3rd fight--and manny could be on ped's...who knows? he did everything in his power to avoid testing until he knew the fight was off and then agreed to them....margarito was caught cheating..floyd has always been more than willing to test and make sure everyone knows, he has never cheated...and don't start that hand numbing ****--it's legal in nevada and many fighters have used it and floyd doesn't even use it anymore----and hasn't used it for a while--

meanwhile, shane was ped's, roy was caught, toney was caught, berto, peterson, and manny could damn sure be on them....

out of all of the great fighters i mentioned, floyd still reigns supreme but man oh man is that mother***er hated or what?lol

he is the best of the best period, deal with it....

[djtmal]

the best fighter of the last 20 years, imo, goes to pernell "sweatpea" whitaker, with roy jones jr., in second place, and lennox lewis, in third...manny pacquaio?....ahhhhh....too many catchweight fights, where the champ had to move down in weight, for my taste...

[djtmal]

like i posted a few years back, it's floyd---i gave an honset account as to why and it hasn't changed..he dominated mosley, like i said he would and i had it down to the tee with stats and everythig. p dub went and got himself ko'ed...and just fell off...manny is keeping himself away from floyd through bob arum and he will be dominated when they finally fight...berto lost to the guy floyd ko'ed, and was just caught with ped's in his system, even though it may not be his fault really, i don't know...

floyd is really the 9 time world champion because he beat mosley, who was the wbo of wba(i forgot) ww champion when he fought floyd, but floyd made the fight more about the fight and not the title...he has dominated champions...de la hoya, judah, baldomir, cotto, mosley, and ortiz to name some...oscar imo didn't win anymore than 3 rounds against him and the same goes for cotto, and floyd moved up to fight them both, not bring them down to catchweights....floyd has achieved the most while breaking compbox records and making the most money and remaining undefeated in the process...name any other fighter on that list that did that---not roy, who has lost so many times now, in his prime, he was great, but who did he fight really? he beat hopkins and toney....

he beat griffin and kelly....he beat ruiz...and then lost to tarver in the rematch and 3rd fight---lost to jonhson by ko...lost to joe c...lost to hopkins in the rematch...lost to a guy whose name i forgot in the 1st round....lost to a guy whose name i never attempted to learn, and was stopped by him in 10 rounds...jones has been ko'ed 4 times in the 2000 decade...and has lost 8 ***ing times---and i don't care if he was past his prime or not...he didn't hang up the boots, if still counts...

hopkins is past his prime and has won titles...floyd was past his prime once he left 140 lbs and has remained undefeated and has beaten 8 champions/former champions in a row---and yes i do count hatton and jmm because even though they were smaller, well hatton was bigger naturally, they had titles....and manny fought jmm at ww just like floyd did and looked so bad against him, and floyd trumped jmm----and now manny is making bradley come up in weight, just like floyd did with hatton, when hatton was undefeated...yet, hatton openly ducked floyd in 2004 and 2005 and some of 06...at 140, hatton didn't want to fight floyd and floyd can't force someone to fight him....hatton had a ww title also....

with all due respect to hopkins and sweet pea and even de la hoya, floyd has topped them all....it's not manny, it's floyd--look at when floyd fought these guys compared to when manny fought them, and the conditions of the fights---that's your answer right there--

manny loses to moralles and then fight him in a rematch after erik loses to rahim...many say he lost to jmm in the rematch and 3rd fight--and manny could be on ped's...who knows? he did everything in his power to avoid testing until he knew the fight was off and then agreed to them....margarito was caught cheating..floyd has always been more than willing to test and make sure everyone knows, he has never cheated...and don't start that hand numbing ****--it's legal in nevada and many fighters have used it and floyd doesn't even use it anymore----and hasn't used it for a while--

meanwhile, shane was ped's, roy was caught, toney was caught, berto, peterson, and manny could damn sure be on them....

out of all of the great fighters i mentioned, floyd still reigns supreme but man oh man is that mother***er hated or what?lol

he is the best of the best period, deal with it....

pbftxs316, as floyd "money" mayweather would say, you did one hell of a job, ballwashing floyd "money" mayweather jr., my man (word)

[RubenSonny]

the best fighter of the last 20 years, imo, goes to pernell "sweatpea" whitaker, with roy jones jr., in second place, and lennox lewis, in third...manny pacquaio?....ahhhhh....too many catchweight fights, where the champ had to move down in weight, for my taste...

[Vadrigar.]

This is a **** poll. No Pernell Whitaker but two sisters instead.

oops missed your edit. I think you should replace the sisters with Hopkins and Whitaker. If you haven't seen Whitaker you should check him out because he was an excellent boxer.