The best fighter of the last 20 years?

[A-Wolf]

Manny Pacquiao.

[DLT]

Only Pac and Floyd deserves votes.



we have to include Roy and Hops losses if we are talking abuot "the last 20 yrs"

no you dont. Not if guys are old or past it. Its like if 2 years from now, if Pac & Floyd start losing, it doesnt mean they werent 2 of the best of the past 20 years. Everyone starts to fade at some point. Its not like those guys were getting beat in there prime

[DLT]

I have not yet decided but Floyd, Lewis, Holyfield and Trinidad are up there

At 147 PAc and Floyd have to fight first but in my mind 147 Trinidad and 147 prime Oscar would beat the crap out of Pac at WW. RJJ didn't have that much competition but still had good wins vs B-Hop and James Toney.

I will think about it more

just because they beat the crap out of him doesnt make them better. (not saying that they arent though).........lol

[NearHypnos]

The lack of Ricardo Lopez upsets me when I hear names like Pac being tossed in as first choices.

[DLT]

I didnt agree wit Sam when it comes to this stuff but its cool to see him in this thread. R.I.P. to da homie

[The Tase]

The lack of Ricardo Lopez upsets me when I hear names like Pac being tossed in as first choices.

why would you be upset?

Pac's resume craps all over that weight class hiding ducker.

[dde91]

do you guys mean by what they did in this 20 years frame or all together who was the better fighter

i go with floyd mayweather on both accounts
1. he hasnt lost and beat a huge list of guys
2. he is a better fighter great defensively and has great tools offensively a good but very very under used jab

manny pacquiao - a 1 dimiensional fighter for most of that 20 year frame and lost 3 times 2ce people no1 know and to erik morales who beat gim with better technique and didnt do anything to bring to the table in the 90's

oscar de la hoya - i am just flat out not a fan and really dnt like bt ill do my best to be unbiast he beat some real good names bt the biggest anmes on his list were no longer at theyre best except for fernando vargas not all there though and he did lose in his mega fights and a 1 handed fighter no pop in his right hand

evander holyfield no excuses from me he is great fighter bt did nothing in this last decade so he could be my number 1 pick if this wasnt for all thru these 20 years of just hands down the better fighter

felix trinidad- a great fighter no doubt bt wasnt complete was very hittable and again did nothing thru both decades

roy jones jr - if i was goin for just the better fighter criteria i would pik hi m hands down bt again didnt do much in the 2000's

shane mosley- great fighter bt hittable n lost to any1 with a good jab and didnt do much bt in 3 or 4 fights of the last decade

wladimir klitschko - now he is my favorite acitve fighter today bt i will be biast the reason he wasnt my number 1 pick is bcuz of the losses if it was for being just the better fighter then i would pick him he is better than all these guys in the early part of 2000's n late 90s he would run out of gas bt he is a far better fighter now he has a jab right left hook u cant touch the guy

lennox lewis - is a great champion i have him as my number 3 pick bt doesnt make the list bcuz i feel mayweather is more complete aside from the jab department

vitali klitschko - he is a great fighter and 1 of my favorite hw champs of all time i would pick him in both categories to win bt again i just feel mayweather is the better fighter

We get that you think Mayweather is the GREATEST fighter ever. and had to make a list to try to show why he is the best in your eyes. but NONE of these fighters RETIRED to duck other fighters. I mean Lennox ducked a young tyson. but other then that all the other fighters haven't ducked no one.
Even if Mayweather has all the "SKILLS" he could of used them after the ricky hatton fight to beat a undefeated Cotto, a Raging Margarito, a Game Clottley, A relentless Paul Williams, a Beast Pacquaio. But he didn't.
RIGHT WHEN THE WW DIVISION GOT HOT HE LEFT MAN. HE LEFT AND WAITED TIL THEY BEAT UP EACHOTHER.

[Kagami Taiga]

the best fighter is not = to the greatest fighter. and imo pac isnt either. the best fighter in the last 20 yrs is undoubtedly rjj imo. i think hed be the favorite p4p prime for prime against everyone on the list.

[DLT]

the best fighter is not = to the greatest fighter. and imo pac isnt either. the best fighter in the last 20 yrs is undoubtedly rjj imo. i think hed be the favorite p4p prime for prime against everyone on the list.

IDK if I would pick him over Floyd in a fight. If all things are close, I always go with defense & fundementals for the win.

Cant go wrong with picking RJ in anything or against anyone in history. I think we wouldve known alot more about his true greatness if the RJ-Hopkins rematch wouldve happened at 168 sometime in the year or 2 after the Tito fight.

People forget about that matchup. Now everyone mostly talks about Bowe-Lewis to go along with Pac-Floyd of fights we didnt get. I ever now hear alot about Mosley-Tito but the RJ-Hopkins rematch is as big as any of them, e****ally in highnsight.

I say that because alot of people felt RJ would be too big & strong at that point but we now know that Hopkins looked great jumping all the way to 175 to fight Tarver so you know he wouldve looked fine at 168 vs RJ. That fight wouldve been such a classic.

He clearly lost to RJ the 1st time but he still give Roy more problems than anyone in his career besides Griffin until Roy got past his prime. Hopkins was on point at the time of the Tito fight. You have to favor Roy but no doubt in my mind that Hopkins wouldve gave him hell. Man I wish we couldve seen that

[The Tase]

the best fighter is not = to the greatest fighter. and imo pac isnt either. the best fighter in the last 20 yrs is undoubtedly rjj imo. i think hed be the favorite p4p prime for prime against everyone on the list.

resume trumps perceived talent and hypothetical p4p match ups. Resume you can measure.

In that case,

its clearly pac.