Pacquiao Rates on New Turf: Ratings and Results Update

[Puntoyhauf]

LOL!!! FLOYD at top 5 in welterweight.

a welterweight who fights non-welterweights is on top 5...what a joke!!!!

[Dave Rado]

No, just for the lineal title. Undisputed means you own all the titles ie. Hopkins was the last Undisputed champ in recent memory with the IBF, WBO and two major titles WBC and WBA.

Sorry, Vic D. was the last Undisputed champ at FW. Hopkins before him, Tszyu at 140 before that etc etc. You can't be Undisputed without at least three of the major titles.

Says who? Undisputed means not seriously disputed.

Are you saying that anyone (other than the sanctioning bodies, who are corrupt so don't count) seriously disputed that Barrera was the champ when he beat Hamed? Or that Pac was the champ when he beat Barrera?

It's true that lineal doesn't necessarily mean undisputed - Erdei being a prime example of a Lineal champion who no one recognised as being the true divisonal champion. And I would agree that to be the undisputed Welterweight champion at the moment, Pac would really need to beat both Mosley and Mayweather. But that is the case even though Mayweather has no belts; and would continue to apply even if Mosley was stripped of his belts. But no one who has any credibility thinks that he would need to beat Isaac Hlatshwayo in order to be considered the champion. It's hard to argue that Hlatshwayo is even a top 10 Welterweight: at best, he barely sc****s into the top 10.

[Dave Rado]

a welterweight who fights non-welterweights is on top 5...what a joke!!!!

He was the last lineal champion; his skills haven't noticeably declined since then; and although his last fight was against a Lightweight, it was against a Lightweight who had given Pac all the trouble he could handle only a year and a half ago, and he won every round. The Ring has him at #2 at the weight, and I'd agree that's a bit too high; but Cliff's rating, if anything, flatters Cotto, IMO. Personally, I'd put him at #3. (And I suspect that The Ring will probably rate him #3 when they next update their ratings, because their ratings haven't been updated since Pac beat Cotto).

PS - I love your new sig!

[Bogler]

**** crold. wtf he's saying pac beat a near prime cotto. ****s sake miguel's only 28 and pac has been in more wars than him. ok so pac's not in his prime too?

[Iceta]

I would probably rank Floyd over Cotto at this point in time. Where as before I wouldn't have. But I think Floyd should definitely be ranked under Mosley and Pacquiao.