Will the officials in Oakland be fair to Kessler?

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  • TheUptownKid
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    #51
    Originally posted by Shadows
    Yes, but Kessler isn't fighting the P4P best fighter in the world and arguably the best fighter of his generation.

    Despite being a big fan of Kessler, I'm one of the few who thinks Ward is a serious threat to anyone in the Super Six, but the chances of Ward emulating Pacquiao are very slim.
    not comparing fights saying every elite fighter knocks out bums, even some good competition. Arthur Abraham knocks out elite comp, pac does too, kessler and ward do not. Not discounting their skill sets they each have many ko's on their records but they dont seem to have that same pop

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    • JMM_135_#1
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      #52
      Originally posted by TheUptownKid
      not comparing fights saying every elite fighter knocks out bums, even some good competition. Arthur Abraham knocks out elite comp, pac does too, kessler and ward do not. Not discounting their skill sets they each have many ko's on their records but they dont seem to have that same pop
      abrahams elite comp being who taylor ??? so im guessing froch is one of these fighters that stop elite opponents too ?

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #53
        Originally posted by JMM_135_#1
        dont try and be sarcastic when youve tried to use him beating some world class amatuers to define his resume...
        You didn't get that my post was a joke did you?

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        • starjammer
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          #54
          I'm concerned about the judging too. Hopefully it won't come down to that.

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          • Shadows
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            #55
            Originally posted by TheUptownKid
            not comparing fights saying every elite fighter knocks out bums, even some good competition. Arthur Abraham knocks out elite comp, pac does too, kessler and ward do not. Not discounting their skill sets they each have many ko's on their records but they dont seem to have that same pop
            Well, Kessler way not have knocked out a lot of elite competition (if by elite, you mean Cotto level fighters), but he has stopped top super middleweights. Frankly, Kessler has never really faced someone of that level.

            I think the same could be said for Abraham. He's knocked out a lot of top middleweights, and Taylor had fallen from elite status IMO.

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            • JMM_135_#1
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              #56
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              You didn't get that my post was a joke did you?

              it would appear not

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              • OTSS
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                #57
                Kessler sucks. If he beats ward I'll be the first to give him FULL credit. He just doesnt impress me at all and got alot of hype from Calzaghe sack chasers trying to make his resume look better than it is. Like I said Full credit if he wins, I just don't see it happening, I got 30k on Ward.

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                  #58
                  This is interesting:



                  The IBO uses an OBJECTIVE computerized system to rank boxers, perhaps better than BoxRec. Look at the last statistic on the right hand side "vs. top 50".

                  It shows Kessler is 14-1 against boxers ranked in the top 50, while Ward is 3-0. In other words, Ward has fought only three decent opponents, while Kessler has fought 15.

                  It also shows Arthur Abraham has fought a lot of decent, top 50 opponents.

                  The stats for light heavyweight are interesting too, shows Roy Jones has fought 40 "top 50" opponents, while Dawson has faced only 9 so far.



                  Here's heavyweight:

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                  • MANGLER
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                    #59
                    No guarantees. Given the venue, Kessler knows what he's gotta do. If he don't do it he can only blame himself. Just like Dirrell.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JMM_135_#1
                      abrahams elite comp being who taylor ??? so im guessing froch is one of these fighters that stop elite opponents too ?
                      miranda, taylor he just seems to have a different intent no matter who the opposition abraham seems to want to ko people in his title matches kessler seems more willing to box final rds (ex. andrade, calzaghe, mundine)

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