How much better has Mayweather got since Judah?

[AKATheMack]

I totally disagree with that. I think people make way too big of a deal about all that angle stuff. Its unorthodox and sloppy. A real boxer will eat that up and thats why JMM had so much success. I honestly beleive Floyd has a harder time with Zab because Zab was a fast Southpaw but he was also slick and fudementaly sound. That crap Pac does looks great aganist these cats who dont know how to box and have horrible D. Against Floyd its going to look amaturish. Also, I think the fact that Pac throws more punches will actually help Floyd. Floyd will be able to let his hands go even more and Pac will give him way more oppurtunites than a cautious Zab did

Most of the all time greats are unorthodox fighters. Roy Jones is unorthodox as hell but his speed makes it work, similar to Pac. I dont think Pac is Roy Jones, but he may just be good enough to beat Mayweather. If the odds are for real Im laying a bet down on Mayweather, but I dont see Mayweather blowing him out anymore.

[pbftxrs316]

Judging by your question, you think Floyd needed to improve? I thought he looked great. You have to remember that was a better Zab he fought then the guy who is fighting now. Zab won round 1, Floyd round 2, and then Zab won 3 & 4. After that he never even came close to winning another round. The only reason why he won the early rounds was because it took Floyd awhile to adjust to his Southpaw stance. After Floyd figured him out it was over. It had nothing to do with Zab fading

i agree with you except for the zab won rounds 3 and 4...zab won round 2 because of tha shaky kd, even though he stepped on floyd's foot, and it wasn't a legit kd imo anyway, and imo zab barely won round 4, floyd landed more effective punches to the body.....floyd imo won round 1---he landed a nice left hook at the start of the round, and zab really didn't land anything on him---i gave zab 3 rounds to be fair, but i see why a judge gave zab only 2 rounds i think----i've watched that fight so many times, so trust me, i ain't making this **** up...you know me better than this....

anyway, floyd is so gifted when it comes to being brilliantly versatle that his offensive skillset can change in every fight and he can throw punches we have never seen him throw---he hasn't improved ever in his career---he has learned to adjust from more angles, that's something he has always had though---just never had to use it because he has so many weapons defensively...floyd has basically been the fighter he has wanted to be----he is that great---pac will find out and shane and whoever thinks they want it with him....

[AKATheMack]

i agree with you except for the zab won rounds 3 and 4...zab won round 2 because of tha shaky kd, even though he stepped on floyd's foot, and it wasn't a legit kd imo anyway, and imo zab barely won round 4, floyd landed more effective punches to the body.....floyd imo won round 1---he landed a nice left hook at the start of the round, and zab really didn't land anything on him---i gave zab 3 rounds to be fair, but i see why a judge gave zab only 2 rounds i think----i've watched that fight so many times, so trust me, i ain't making this **** up...you know me better than this....

anyway, floyd is so gifted when it comes to being brilliantly versatle that his offensive skillset can change in every fight and he can throw punches we have never seen him throw---he hasn't improved ever in his career---he has learned to adjust from more angles, that's something he has always had though---just never had to use it because he has so many weapons defensively...floyd has basically been the fighter he has wanted to be----he is that great---pac will find out and shane and whoever thinks they want it with him....

I think Mayweather dominates Mosley and probably any other WW in the world. Im really impressed with Pacs punch resistance, and his power at WW. I really thought Cotto could at least stun Pac, but he really couldnt, and his face looked horrible after the fight.

[Pullcounter]

Hit a ceiling with JLC? So he looked horrible against Chop, Gatti, N'Dou? He was awesome and very offensive in all of those fights

yes, floyd has hit a ceiling. he has not improved since JLC.

chop, gatti and n'dou don't prove jack ****... those guys aren't even as good as JLC.

at 130 lbs, floyd was a monster. he had everything: workrate, power, speed, cunning, etc.... 140+ floyd has become a potshotter.

floyd has hit a ceiling and he stopped improving ever since 135 lbs, and if you look at how floyd was murking mofos at 130 lbs, you could even say he's gotten worse... but imho that's not fair cause floyd didn't carry his power up and had to rely on his defense to win fights.