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  • Bushbaby
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    #21
    Donde,it's like so,Cotto won the 1st round with the jab,then he put it away in a box locked it up tight & preceded to get his a$$ kicked all over the ring!!That's what happened,let it go!!

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    • Section8Studios
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dondi33O
      Very well said.
      I still believe that Cotto's mind is not all there anymore.Wish it was but I dont believe it is.
      It's there,, what wasn't there was an experienced corner. He was better off with his uncle

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        #23
        Originally posted by cruzan mario
        Donde,it's like so,Cotto won the 1st round with the jab,then he put it away in a box locked it up tight & preceded to get his a$$ kicked all over the ring!!That's what happened,let it go!!
        ????? What the? Did you read the thread?

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        • Aracibo04
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          #24
          loco

          que pasa no tienes na que decir sobre lo que escribi?

          also in light of what your final question was.. I don't think it would have made much difference if cotto was at 147 due to the reasons i mentioned.
          Last edited by Aracibo04; 11-16-2009, 08:06 PM.

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          • Dondi33O
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            #25
            Originally posted by Aracibo04
            Dondi,

            make take on this is that first of all manny beat him fair and square.. cotto agreed to 145 and maybe did not rehydrate up all the way because he said he wanted to rehydrate up to 155. he was healthy in that aspect.

            cotto;s problem is as atlas put it "damaged goods" I refused to believe that until the fight.. i don't think its mental I definitely think is physical.... other fighters might suffer a broken nose but I have never seen some ones nose bleed as much as cotto's... simply put... you break cotto's nose (margarito did it), he starts to bleed and can't breathe properly and therefore he can't hit as a hard. he was already spitting blood by the sixth round. manny definitely convinced me that is cotto's weakness now.

            clotty was not a high volume puncher and that is why you did not see blood coming out and cotto spitting blood. but if he was the same thing would have happend to cotto. if cotto faces a high volume fighter with decent strength the same thing will happen. Thats my take on it.

            margo definitely hurt him beyond remedy and recovery..

            by the way, I am not saying that manny would have lost, all i am saying is that the fight would have been more competitive and woujld have lived up to what most fans though it would have been a 50/50 fight.
            I hear you. To be honest Cotto is one of my favorites and I hope for his sake your right. Because If your right he can still continue to have a great career with a better trainer and some defense work. But if I am right then his career is over. No one will help his mind.
            I think everyone even the Pac fans wish the fight was more on even terms, because it clears up all doubts(they might not admit but I think they feel it inside). If Pac beat Cotto at 147, there are no doubts and all questions answered. Even they have to admit this "creating belts" is crap and losing your 147 belt at 145 is even worse. I think Cotto fights Hatton in a year or so and wins a tough fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Dondi33O
              I hear you. To be honest Cotto is one of my favorites and I hope for his sake your right. Because If your right he can still continue to have a great career with a better trainer and some defense work. But if I am right then his career is over. No one will help his mind.
              I think everyone even the Pac fans wish the fight was more on even terms, because it clears up all doubts(they might not admit but I think they feel it inside). If Pac beat Cotto at 147, there are no doubts and all questions answered. Even they have to admit this "creating belts" is crap and losing your 147 belt at 145 is even worse. I think Cotto fights Hatton in a year or so and wins a tough fight.
              If cotto changes his approach to training and works on increasing his punch output which will naturally make him faster (much the way manny trains) he might be able to make a comeback. You are right if its mental, then no one can help him...I wish him the best no matter what he does...
              I really love section8studios throwback figher sig...damn. i got goose bumps..

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                #27
                Originally posted by Aracibo04
                If cotto changes his approach to training and works on increasing his punch output which will naturally make him faster (much the way manny trains) he might be able to make a comeback. I wish him the best no matter what he does...
                I really love section8studios throwback figher sig...damn. i got goose bumps..
                section8studios Yeah the sig is nice.
                You know what ? I think your right. The only thing left for Cotto to do is get a TOP trainer and adjust his boxing skills a bit, work on the defense too. I think he is Done with "warring" he can no longer go to war. I hope his mentality is not totally gone.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dondi33O
                  section8studios Yeah the sig is nice.
                  You know what ? I think your right. The only thing left for Cotto to do is get a TOP trainer and adjust his boxing skills a bit, work on the defense too. I think he is Done with "warring" he can no longer go to war. I hope his mentality is not totally gone.
                  he has a left jab, he has a left hook, boxing skills, killer instincts and ring general ship. he can and needs to improve...

                  i was also thinking there might be surgery to remove all the scar tissue he has in his nasal cavity. but unless someone tells him hey you can get that fixed then that will continue to be his weakness. WAR COTTO! LOL

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Aracibo04
                    he has a left jab, he has a left hook, boxing skills, killer instincts and ring general ship. he can and needs to improve...

                    i was also thinking there might be surgery to remove all the scar tissue he has in his nasal cavity. but unless someone tells him hey you can get that fixed then that will continue to be his weakness. WAR COTTO! LOL
                    Maybe with a Top trainer he will get what he needs and all those things we see, including the scar tissue removal will be known by them, He is still young. I wish him luck.
                    PS I knew a girl from Barrio Higuelallez..I think thats how you spell it

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dondi33O
                      Maybe with a Top trainer he will get what he needs and all those things we see, including the scar tissue removal will be known by them, He is still young. I wish him luck.
                      PS I knew a girl from Barrio Higuelallez..I think thats how you spell it
                      Higuillarez,, and I had to look it up LOL... i was raise in hato arriba... how long ago was that??

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