Don't be fooled by Shane's win over Margarita

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Lol, okay, let me correct myself, He's not just a bum, but a glorified bum. And, yeah, no one has ever ko'd Margarita before, because, well, look at the competition he has faced, lol.

A few tweaks in the gameplan, and a good number of fighters, like P. Will, and Cotto would've beaten Margarita, that's all there's to it.

No, you just are an extremist, P Williams fought Marg and won but was beat up in the process. Cotto landed shot after shot vs Marg and couldn't KO him. Cintron, who is a heavy puncher landed clean shots and couldn't KO Marg.

It's ok that you hate Marg, I get that but just don't let that influence your thought process. If you do, you fall in line with the rest of the posters here and that's not a good place to be.

[BOX-A-LOT]

No, you just are an extremist, P Williams fought Marg and won but was beat up in the process. Cotto landed shot after shot vs Marg and couldn't KO him. Cintron, who is a heavy puncher landed clean shots and couldn't KO Marg.

It's ok that you hate Marg, I get that but just don't let that influence your thought process. If you do, you fall in line with the rest of the posters here and that's not a good place to be.

Let me make a correction. I knew P-Will beat Margarita, but, I think, if P-Will would've applied the same Mosley tactic, I don't think the fight would've have been as competitive.

Same thing with Cotto, I don't think he would've dominated Margarita had he applied the same gameplan that Shane used on the cheater, but, it would've been an easier fight for Cotto and won!

No doubt about it, Margarita can take a f**kin' bat to his chin. But, it takes more than just a hard punch to stop Margarita. It's about applying the right plan, and so far Shane has been the only one to do so. If you don't have a stiff jab, the only other way to go is to apply the hit and clinch, unless you have the stamina to stick and move all night long.

Margarita is such a simple fighter, he has no jab to speak of. A terrific chin, hard puncher, with great stamina, lacks mobility. C'mon now.

[pgolf]

I give Shane full credit for beating Margarito.

Shane is a great fighter. He never had great defense, but his chin is solid and great 'power boxing'. I think he was down once in his career during the first Vernon Forrest fight from a solid right (after monstrous headbut in the same round).

At his prime in LW, WW he would have beaten Floyd. Unfortunately, IMO, Floyd Jr. would UD him if they fight in 2010.

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[FLY TY]

Shane has been past his prime years ago. Margarita, although a tough hombre, was a glorified f**Kin' bum, a cheating one at that.

I'm tellin' y'all. Shane vs. Floyd would not even be competitive, it would look similar to Floyd - JMM, believe that.

Shane these days, is all about landing that one - punch. If you don't come at Shane, he has difficulty getting his punches off. Mayorga's awkwardness proved it.

When was the last time Floyd was the aggressor in a fight? Floyd will definitely not do any leading against Shane.

shane loses to berto bro.

[nailzfan]

Didn't Floyd's "ducking" of Margarito have something to do with his desire to opt out of his promotional contract with Arum? Wasn't the Marg offer a ploy to keep Floyd under contract with Arum, kind of like him throwing Cotto a bone in the form of a fight with Pacquiao in order to get him to renew his contract?

[BOX-A-LOT]

shane loses to berto bro.

What does this have to do with the current discussion?

and, yes, there's a good possibility Shane loses to Berto(If Berto doesn't do anything silly, he may very well UD Shane). But, I think Shane just needs to land that bomb on Berto and it's either gonna be la la land for Andre, or it's the beginning of a beat-down.

[BOX-A-LOT]

Didn't Floyd's "ducking" of Margarito have something to do with his desire to opt out of his promotional contract with Arum? Wasn't the Marg offer a ploy to keep Floyd under contract with Arum, kind of like him throwing Cotto a bone in the form of a fight with Pacquiao in order to get him to renew his contract?

That's what a recent article mentions, but, wasn't Floyd still with Arum when he fought Baldomir ?

[nailzfan]

That's what a recent article mentions, but, wasn't Floyd still with Arum when he fought Baldomir ?

I think they split after the Judah fight.

[daggum]

i am not fooled. margarito is a bum. mosley is a bum for beating him. cotto is a bum for losing to pac. pac is a bum for beating him. williams is a bum for losing to quintana. quintana is a bum for losing to williams in the rematch. clottey is a bum for losing to cotto. berto is a bum cause he almost lost to collazo. only non bum? floyd mayweather! and what a surprise he hasn't fought any of these bums. he knows bum status better than everyone. baldomir was the truth and you fools dont realize it.