ROACH: Mayweather won't last as long as Cotto! (ESPN's Dan Rafael Interview)

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  • fcastro1
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    #91
    Originally posted by boxingfan_123
    exactly his defense has yet to be solved
    if hatton and judah can hit floyd then i am almost certain pac can. [acs style is a nightmare for floyd.

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      #92
      Originally posted by fcastro1
      if hatton and judah can hit floyd then i am almost certain pac can. [acs style is a nightmare for floyd.
      Hey Castro, did you think that was a prime version of Cotto in there?

      He looked much smaller and shot to me.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Jack Burton
        Hey Castro, did you think that was a prime version of Cotto in there?

        He looked much smaller and shot to me.

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        he wasnt shot, pac makes all his opponents look that way because of his offence.

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          #94
          pac was more damaged good than cotto

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            #95
            Manny will have his work cut out for him with Floyd, that is for sure.

            Where many are going wrong though is by comparing JMM's performance against both of them. JMM looked great against Manny, mainly because he fought his natural style as a counterpuncher at a weight that was comfortable for him.

            Against Floyd JMM was forced to become the aggressor against a taller guy in a weight class not suited for him.

            So Manny will get to fight as his normal aggressive self against Floyd, but Floyd is the master at keeping his opponents just out of range, especially if they are shorter. Floyd will freely lean back, roll his shoulder so it deflects everything. Floyd prefers to fight shorter guys for a reason. A taller guy can punch over that shoulder roll, a shorter guy really cannot.

            Floyd can get swarmed though. Fighters that are too active will make him fall back to the ropes. He is hard to hit cleanly there, but he can get worked on and you can score more points on him there.

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              #96
              Originally posted by fcastro1
              he wasnt shot, pac makes all his opponents look that way because of his offence.
              I love your passion. Which is why I bought you taht beer long ago.

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                #97
                HAHAHAHAHAHAHA for anyone thinking Floyd will beat Pac! Im not gonna get cranked up on them morons yet. Im still laughing at the ones that thought Cotto was gonna walk through Manny! Floyd....LMFAO!!!!!

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Bogler
                  you got it wrong coach. there was a reason why cotto deviated from his jab. manny was able to counter it in rd2 already and followed it up w/ a flurry. cotto had to and was forced to trade, or just run away. he couldnt handle the speed exchange.

                  when manny would let him, thats when he was able to use the jab again. but the hurt accumulation slowed him down already.
                  I agree to an extent but there is no reason to deviate from a jab. Most fighters don't jab enough because they feel as though it has little effect and usually resort to power punching. Had cotto continue to snap Pac's head back like that for a few rounds he could have had a better chance.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    Manny will have his work cut out for him with Floyd, that is for sure.

                    Where many are going wrong though is by comparing JMM's performance against both of them. JMM looked great against Manny, mainly because he fought his natural style as a counterpuncher at a weight that was comfortable for him.

                    Against Floyd JMM was forced to become the aggressor against a taller guy in a weight class not suited for him.

                    So Manny will get to fight as his normal aggressive self against Floyd, but Floyd is the master at keeping his opponents just out of range, especially if they are shorter. Floyd will freely lean back, roll his shoulder so it deflects everything. Floyd prefers to fight shorter guys for a reason. A taller guy can punch over that shoulder roll, a shorter guy really cannot.

                    Floyd can get swarmed though. Fighters that are too active will make him fall back to the ropes. He is hard to hit cleanly there, but he can get worked on and you can score more points on him there.
                    The shoulder is useless against a southpaw, Floyd is completely open for a straight left. Judah proved this and even if it was only for 4 rounds, Manny is TWICE as good as Judah and it only takes more than 6 rounds to win a Mayweather fight. Manny also has more power than Judah, not saying Floyd won't be able to win the fight, I'm still not sure who would win but a left is Floyd's biggest weakness.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                      The shoulder is useless against a southpaw, Floyd is completely open for a straight left. Judah proved this and even if it was only for 4 rounds, Manny is TWICE as good as Judah and it only takes more than 6 rounds to win a Mayweather fight. Manny also has more power than Judah, not saying Floyd won't be able to win the fight, I'm still not sure who would win but a left is Floyd's biggest weakness.
                      Oh IMO it will be a very good fight. Huge clash of styles and Floyd will get hit quite a bit due to Manny's speed. Manny will get hit a lot also.

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